Kurt Cobain/Nirvana Documentary

[Krypt]

A very good documentary IMO; obviously a bit dark and a bit too long, but solid nonetheless. Even if you like Alice in Chains more (like me), watching this has made me appreciate Nirvana a bit more.

HD stream: http://supermegastream.com/kurt-coba...-of-heck-2015/

Enjoy.

[sonatine]

I really hated this, until I realized his daughter was the executive producer.

Then I just felt awkward.


Full disclosure: I wasnt into Nirvana. I respected them but I wasnt into them, I felt they were stealing a lot of thunder from the postpunk/nowave scene. Its complicated.

[SrslySirius]

I've heard this described as the 'Boyhood' of documentaries. Watch Kurt grow up before your eyes! It took 47 years to make!

I was very much into Nirvana, but I'll pass.

[limitles]

I really hated this, until I realized his daughter was the executive producer.

Then I just felt awkward.


Full disclosure: I wasnt into Nirvana. I respected them but I wasnt into them, I felt they were stealing a lot of thunder from the postpunk/nowave scene. Its complicated.

pfffff

[sonatine]

Fuller disclosure: I had already watched heroin carve a murderous swathe of misery through my friends and peers and I wasnt trying to have Kurt and Courtney's bullshit junkies in love act.

[WillieMcFML]

kurt was/is god, and i too was expecting more when i heard francis bean was producing it

but there really wasn't anything i hadn't heard/seen/read about before

and watching kurt and courtney share a sloppy kiss was very uncomfortable

also, garrett's brother is a rat

[sonatine]

The fact that they kind of stopped the documentary cold 28 days before he killed himself felt like a reaaaaal bullshit copout but again, given that the whole thing is basically some sort of post-mortem attempt to process her fucked up family situation, I cant really fault Francis.

It reminds me of the time that garrett's brother snitched to the cops.

[4Dragons]

I really hated this, until I realized his daughter was the executive producer.

Then I just felt awkward.


Full disclosure: I wasnt into Nirvana. I respected them but I wasnt into them, I felt they were stealing a lot of thunder from the postpunk/nowave scene. Its complicated.

I kind of felt the same way about that, but I read an interview that Cobain did where he talked extensively about his influences and bands that never got out of the garage that maybe 100 copies of their stuff was floating around that he knew about. Honestly I think he was embarrassed by the success that he found and other bands that were doing a lot of the same type of thing never got out of the garage. That being said, I will most likely not watch that documentary.

[herbertstemple]

I really hated this, until I realized his daughter was the executive producer.

Then I just felt awkward.


Full disclosure: I wasnt into Nirvana. I respected them but I wasnt into them, I felt they were stealing a lot of thunder from the postpunk/nowave scene. Its complicated.

Agreed about Nirvana, but thought he stole one of Neil Young's sounds. Young went through different phases during his career.

For example: from 1981

[sonatine]

To be clear, I dont fault Nirvana/Cobain for anything (except the junkie shit). They made fine music. I was just *eyeroll* at how 1 in 100,000 Nirvana fans would have any idea who Glenn Branca was. And I had to sit there and watch some absolute titans basically give up and make shitty pop rock in an attempt to get any sort of recognition before they became historic footnotes. That's what had me shitty, right there.


As far as them ripping off noises/sounds/songs/whatever, I mean, the game is the game.

[limitles]

To be clear, I dont fault Nirvana/Cobain for anything (except the junkie shit). They made fine music. I was just *eyeroll* at how 1 in 100,000 Nirvana fans would have any idea who Glenn Branca was. And I had to sit there and watch some absolute titans basically give up and make shitty pop rock in an attempt to get any sort of recognition before they became historic footnotes. That's what had me shitty, right there.


As far as them ripping off noises/sounds/songs/whatever, I mean, the game is the game.

Get off you're East Coast High Pony delusional-ism. Glenn Branca? Lovely local artist possibly, but really? Cobain was as gifted as he was messed up and was not the sell out type. The ripoff inference falls on deaf ears (thanks Nirvana). All musicians are influenced by those who preceded them and some may purposely use that to further their careers but Cobain was simply not interested in the makings.

Next.

[limitles]

Wow, thirty minutes into said doc and it's already gold. Thx for the link.

Also, this reads like a
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biography

[sonatine]

To be clear, I dont fault Nirvana/Cobain for anything (except the junkie shit). They made fine music. I was just *eyeroll* at how 1 in 100,000 Nirvana fans would have any idea who Glenn Branca was. And I had to sit there and watch some absolute titans basically give up and make shitty pop rock in an attempt to get any sort of recognition before they became historic footnotes. That's what had me shitty, right there.


As far as them ripping off noises/sounds/songs/whatever, I mean, the game is the game.

Get off you're East Coast High Pony delusional-ism. Glenn Branca? Lovely local artist possibly, but really? Cobain was as gifted as he was messed up and was not the sell out type. The ripoff inference falls on deaf ears (thanks Nirvana). All musicians are influenced by those who preceded them and some may purposely use that to further their careers but Cobain was simply not interested in the makings.

Next.

Simmer down les.

[bukowski72]

To be clear, I dont fault Nirvana/Cobain for anything (except the junkie shit).

I don't think Kurt really tried to promote the junkie stuff -- the press did. He said if you keep doing drugs it will fuck you up. If not this year the next.

One of the reasons his sister was upset about this documentary was that it showed Kurt high on drugs. He refused to be filmed by the press when he was fucked up. He told his sister he never wanted to encourage anyone to think that doing heroin was cool.

[sonatine]

I wasnt flagging him for 'promoting' junkie-ness, just for being a sloppy fuckup junkie.

That said, some people are just straight wired to go that route and I think that guy in that city at that period in time had single digit chances of ducking that bullet.

Whatever tho, I dont want to bag on the man or anything, just saying.

[limitles]

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I wasnt flagging him for 'promoting' junkie-ness, just for being a sloppy fuckup junkie.

That said, some people are just straight wired to go that route and I think that guy in that city at that period in time had single digit chances of ducking that bullet.

Whatever tho, I dont want to bag on the man or anything, just saying.

Disagree. What else? You've got a sensitive type personality, and shit happens at the age of 9.

Whether or not, he was manic depressive, this kind of event can negatively influence some for a lifetime.

Perhaps the artist in him "won" or was brought out because of this but he was lost emotionally.
One note on the doc, the animation portions are worthwhile because they contain true audio, I believe, but they often have him drawing or handling things, like scissors, with his right hand. Possible that he was ambidextrous but I'd bet not.

Oh boy, credibility issues
Fuck the documentary.

If nobody involved with this production noticed the animation blunders, whose to say what else they made up.
Fucking junkie HBO executives. Burn for eternity in the hot place.

[gimmick]

I like flannel.

[limitles]

Judge a junkie?

How dare Ye?

Judge a poker player then/than

[WillieMcFML]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...ushpmg00000118

"soaked in bleach" trailer

the private investigator courtney hired days before kurt's death, tom grant, is releasing his courtney-killed-kurt movie on june 11th

i read a lot about this back in the day, should at least be interesting

[sonatine]

Didnt this come out in like the late 90s?