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    Jimmy Kimmel removed from ABC after claiming Kirk shooter was MAGA, following FCC pressure

    Jimmy Kimmel went on his show and claimed that the GOP/MAGA has hit a "new low" by trying to insist that the Charlie Kirk shooter was "anything but one of their own".

    The FCC chair then responded by threatening consequences to ABC for allowing such things, and suddenly Kimmel was fired.

    The left is just outright lying about the kid, trying to portray this as MAGA-on-MAGA violence.

    It's one thing for a few random lefties on X to be doing it (that's expected), but it's gone more mainstream, as evidenced by what Kimmel did.

    Here's the segment:

    https://twitter.com/NostraChavez/status/1968455734871372141



    I don't support the government pressuring broadcasters to take Kimmel off the air, which is apparently what happened. That's not good.

    However, it's important to make the distinction here that Kimmel wasn't taken off for simply being critical of Trump. He was taken off the air for deliberately spreading misinformation about the shooter being MAGA, despite clearly knowing otherwise.

    Had the suspension of Kimmel been unrelated to any government pressure, I'd actually support it. These comedians should not be using their platform to outright lie about political issues.

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    Yes, both sides are trash.

    Cancel culture is poised for liftoff.

    I think Kimmel is just awful. I am certain I never watched an entire show in my life. If his network doesn’t like his performance that’s one thing but GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT WAS THE THIRD RAIL. The public applauding the government cancellation is EoT stuff.

    Sorry for our loss. You really can never go back.

     
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    I agree with you that the government should never get involved with telling broadcasters who to fire.

    I don't like it any more than you do.

    I actually think ABC suspending him would have been warranted on its own, but not because of government pressure.

    Oh, and Jimmy Kimmel also was once mean to our own Master Scalir. When Ken couldn't make a KROQ event in 1995 where he was planned to be participating, his mom called and told them he wouldn't be able to be present. Kimmel, then a KROQ employee, was on stage outside and asking if everyone was there, and an assistant said, "Ken isn't here. His mom called and said he can't come." Kimmel responded, "What? Ken's mom called and said he CAN'T CUM?"

    The crowd laughed. I felt bad for Ken.

    Despite this, Ken still opposes Jimmy's suspension 30 years later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I agree with you that the government should never get involved with telling broadcasters who to fire.

    I don't like it any more than you do.

    I actually think ABC suspending him would have been warranted on its own, but not because of government pressure.

    Oh, and Jimmy Kimmel also was once mean to our own Master Scalir. When Ken couldn't make a KROQ event in 1995 where he was planned to be participating, his mom called and told them he wouldn't be able to be present. Kimmel, then a KROQ employee, was on stage outside and asking if everyone was there, and an assistant said, "Ken isn't here. His mom called and said he can't come." Kimmel responded, "What? Ken's mom called and said he CAN'T CUM?"

    The crowd laughed. I felt bad for Ken.

    Despite this, Ken still opposes Jimmy's suspension 30 years later.
    Some clarification here: Kimmel is NOT cancelled. The show is indefinitely suspended for now.

    Someone posted a tweet above about Nexstar Media Group. They are just one of many companies that own ABC affiliate stations around the country. (Sinclair Broadcasting and Gray Television are a couple others that come to mind.)

    That tweet only referenced Nexstar stations that were planning on pre-empting Kimmel. I have no idea whether other companies' stations planned on doing the same thing.

    With ABC's decision to suspend him though, that's all moot. (at least for the time being.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I agree with you that the government should never get involved with telling broadcasters who to fire.

    I don't like it any more than you do.

    I actually think ABC suspending him would have been warranted on its own, but not because of government pressure.

    Oh, and Jimmy Kimmel also was once mean to our own Master Scalir. When Ken couldn't make a KROQ event in 1995 where he was planned to be participating, his mom called and told them he wouldn't be able to be present. Kimmel, then a KROQ employee, was on stage outside and asking if everyone was there, and an assistant said, "Ken isn't here. His mom called and said he can't come." Kimmel responded, "What? Ken's mom called and said he CAN'T CUM?"

    The crowd laughed. I felt bad for Ken.

    Despite this, Ken still opposes Jimmy's suspension 30 years later.
    It’s worse than that. The government is flexing on this. Blazing new authoritarian frontiers going forward. Given the current chaos there will be little objection from the public.

    Master Scalir is old school. Flip phones and free speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by go_buccos View Post
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    I agree with you that the government should never get involved with telling broadcasters who to fire.

    I don't like it any more than you do.

    I actually think ABC suspending him would have been warranted on its own, but not because of government pressure.

    Oh, and Jimmy Kimmel also was once mean to our own Master Scalir. When Ken couldn't make a KROQ event in 1995 where he was planned to be participating, his mom called and told them he wouldn't be able to be present. Kimmel, then a KROQ employee, was on stage outside and asking if everyone was there, and an assistant said, "Ken isn't here. His mom called and said he can't come." Kimmel responded, "What? Ken's mom called and said he CAN'T CUM?"

    The crowd laughed. I felt bad for Ken.

    Despite this, Ken still opposes Jimmy's suspension 30 years later.
    Some clarification here: Kimmel is NOT cancelled. The show is indefinitely suspended for now.

    Someone posted a tweet above about Nexstar Media Group. They are just one of many companies that own ABC affiliate stations around the country. (Sinclair Broadcasting and Gray Television are a couple others that come to mind.)

    That tweet only referenced Nexstar stations that were planning on pre-empting Kimmel. I have no idea whether other companies' stations planned on doing the same thing.

    With ABC's decision to suspend him though, that's all moot. (at least for the time being.)
    I mean, IMO, the other networks can't wait to find a reason to just axe their traditional late night shows. CBS got an easy exit with Colbert, maybe ABC now will as well.

    I'm no Harry Hollywood, but these shows just can't be making money anymore from what I've read.

    I think if you combine the ratings of all these late night shows together they maybe equal what Letterman got in the late 90's.....when he was losing to Leno. These shows still employ like 100 people. Joe Rogan has more outreach with him and his 3 employees.

    I would guess that if you told, I dunno, Sydney Sweeneys agent...."you can go on two of these 3 to promote the next movie; Rogan, Hot Ones, Tonight Show", there would be a chuckle then asking why the tonight show is even an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by go_buccos View Post

    Some clarification here: Kimmel is NOT cancelled. The show is indefinitely suspended for now.

    Someone posted a tweet above about Nexstar Media Group. They are just one of many companies that own ABC affiliate stations around the country. (Sinclair Broadcasting and Gray Television are a couple others that come to mind.)

    That tweet only referenced Nexstar stations that were planning on pre-empting Kimmel. I have no idea whether other companies' stations planned on doing the same thing.

    With ABC's decision to suspend him though, that's all moot. (at least for the time being.)
    I mean, IMO, the other networks can't wait to find a reason to just axe their traditional late night shows. CBS got an easy exit with Colbert, maybe ABC now will as well.

    I'm no Harry Hollywood, but these shows just can't be making money anymore from what I've read.

    I think if you combine the ratings of all these late night shows together they maybe equal what Letterman got in the late 90's.....when he was losing to Leno. These shows still employ like 100 people. Joe Rogan has more outreach with him and his 3 employees.
    These productions have gotten so bloated, partially due to SAG-AFTRA insistence that each function has to have a separate person working it.

    But you can't entirely blame them. There's also bizarrely huge writing teams, which actually make these shows less funny, because it becomes a tyranny of the majority, and a lot of the funny/unique/edgy stuff gets dropped. Oh, and of course all of the writers share basically the same ideology, so you can forget any kind of comedy which gives it equally (or even 20/80) to both sides.

    So yeah the costs are huge, and I'd also guess the networks are losing money. I know they were on Colbert.

    It's nice to see the ascension of new media like Rogan, not because I'm a fan of his (I'm not), but because entertainment honestly needs a reset, and that includes less bloating/cost.

    When it comes down to it, people just want entertaining and/or informative programming which doesn't talk down to them. Elaborate sets, big budget gimmicks, and super-polished production can be nice, but people can do without it. Think of how much you can appreciate a well-made YouTube video by just one dude, even if it's not as polished as what you'd see on TV.

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    Kimmel was taken off the air, not because of government pressure, but because ABC knew they were going to lose massive advertising dollars. They had to move on it.

    And Orko is right about it not mattering whether the shooter was left or right. What really matters is what leftist zealots are up too. Below is a hit list Andy Ngo took off one of the dark websites he lurks.

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    See, I do believe this was government retaliation, and I don't like that part of it.

    It's true that Kimmel's show was likely losing money, so it wasn't a huge loss for ABC to suspend it (and even get rid of it).

    However, this was definitely done because the companies involved (ABC and the affiliate-owner Nexstar) were scared of the FCC bringing consequences upon them both presently and down the road. The last thing they wanted was to stir up the hornet's nest with regulators, so it was easier just to bend the knee and suspend Kimmel.

    This sets a bad precedent, because we really don't want the government (of either party) directly or indirectly threatening consequences for speech they don't like. That's part of the reason Twitter and Facebook were so censorious of posts regarding COVID or Hunter Biden's laptop. That was awful, and this isn't good either.

    ABC definitely has a right to suspend Kimmel if they don't like what he's saying on their platform, and had they done this on their own, I'd have no objection.

    Kimmel did blatantly lie. He did knowingly spread misinformation about the Kirk shooter. If ABC simply said, "No, you're not using our platform to do that shit", and suspended him, it would have been 100% justified.

    I just don't like how it went down. The suspension happened due to government pressure, and we should never want that.

     
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    Network used this incident to hopefully save face in eyes of conservatives. Truth is he was gonna go anyways because ratings are shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    See, I do believe this was government retaliation, and I don't like that part of it.

    It's true that Kimmel's show was likely losing money, so it wasn't a huge loss for ABC to suspend it (and even get rid of it).

    However, this was definitely done because the companies involved (ABC and the affiliate-owner Nexstar) were scared of the FCC bringing consequences upon them both presently and down the road. The last thing they wanted was to stir up the hornet's nest with regulators, so it was easier just to bend the knee and suspend Kimmel.

    This sets a bad precedent, because we really don't want the government (of either party) directly or indirectly threatening consequences for speech they don't like. That's part of the reason Twitter and Facebook were so censorious of posts regarding COVID or Hunter Biden's laptop. That was awful, and this isn't good either.

    ABC definitely has a right to suspend Kimmel if they don't like what he's saying on their platform, and had they done this on their own, I'd have no objection.

    Kimmel did blatantly lie. He did knowingly spread misinformation about the Kirk shooter. If ABC simply said, "No, you're not using our platform to do that shit", and suspended him, it would have been 100% justified.

    I just don't like how it went down. The suspension happened due to government pressure, and we should never want that.
    Advertising dollars were still a part of it. Not just for Kimmel’s show but every other show.
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    Someone should prove that free speech is alive and well by starting a traveling, open-air show where they invite their political enemies to peacefully debate various topics.

    Has anyone tried that?

     
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    Lefties on social media are so tilting.

    If they said, "People lie on TV all the time, so what Jimmy Kimmel did wasn't a big deal, and the FCC shouldn't have pressed to get him suspended", that would be completely reasonable.

    If they said, "Yeah, Jimmy lied, but so does Trump all the time, so it's hypocritical for him to send the FCC to get Jimmy fired for doing the same thing", that would also be completely reasonable.

    Instead, we are getting either "Jimmy got suspended by Trump's fascist FCC for telling jokes" or "Jimmy was telling the complete truth, Trump couldn't handle it, and he had him suspended", or "Jimmy is being taken out of context, and didn't mean the shooter was right wing. That's the dishonest spin from MAGA."


    I can find almost zero left-leaning people on social media who will admit that Jimmy Kimmel intentionally lied/misled about the shooter's political beliefs. They simply can't accept that longtime whiny lefty Kimmel, who has cried about Trump on his show for the past decade, would possibly consider telling a lie in order to make Trump/MAGA look bad.

    It was just out of context, you see. We still don't know the shooter's ideology or reasons for doing this, you see. He was just telling jokes, you see.

    Outrageous.


    Oh, and then when I present them with the mountain of evidence that this kid wasn't right wing and in fact hated conservatives, they go into conspiratorial mode:

    - The kid's mom is lying because she's MAGA

    - The electrician boss is lying because... well, he just is, even though he isn't even political

    - Law enforcement is lying because they're in Utah and that's a red state

    - The FBI is lying because they work for Trump now

    - The texts where he said he killed Charlie for being hateful are fabricated by law enforcement, and never happened

    - This whole thing is a pre-planned conspiracy so Trump can seize dictatorial power and destroy adversaries



    I used to think the conspiritards were on the right. Now the left has joined them. Rather than simply believing that this was a gay kid who pushed away from his family's conservatism, moved in with his furry trans boyfriend, and came to despise anyone who was the embodiment of the conservatism he grew to resent, we're supposed to believe he was a MAGA groyper who killed Charlie for not being extreme enough. You know... a groyper in the furry community with a trans boyfriend. And somehow everyone who knew him is in on the coverup.

    People are seriously trying to argue this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    Someone should prove that free speech is alive and well by starting a traveling, open-air show where they invite their political enemies to peacefully debate various topics.

    Has anyone tried that?
    Rest in piss, Charlie

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    I don’t have a problem with it. Kimmel is smart. He knows the climate. You work in a business where your words cost your company money, this will happen. He has a pile of money. We are swinging back wildly from one extreme to the other atm. While I have little hope for the country, I have a feeling this shit will find a middle ground if only for pragmatic purposes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Remember when Rolling Stone was a cool magazine about rock 'n roll? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

    What a woke joke that rag has become.
    After they promoted that fake rape story that was completely made up I never read a single thing from them again.

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