Originally Posted by Krypt
you don't know shit about finance.
It’s too easy to insult you. So I will just ask a simple query which will suffice: tell us anything of import that you have accomplished.
you don't know shit about finance.
It’s too easy to insult you. So I will just ask a simple query which will suffice: tell us anything of import that you have accomplished.
It was literally fucking amazing.Just watched the interview with dr Patterson.
Omg I’m going to be liquid as fuck tomorrow.
Substitute cydy for Moderna.
why are you shilling such a garbage security? this thread is embarrassing
If this pans out the $$ will be a nice side benefit but the headline here is this is going to make catching COVID benign. That means the world reopens. That means we can travel and not have to walk around in masks. It means sporting events and rock concerts.
Or Krypt from the Internet who has never posted a shred of content knows more than the former head of virology at Stanford University. Maybe that ends up being the case which would suck for humanities sake.
Sorry to say I’m not pulling for your hot take to pan out here.
What was the gist of the Patterson interview
“I’m right. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. The science is 100% legit and I’m qualified to say it. Fuck you im an anteater”
He also ended the conversation with a story from his AIDS research days. Basically he put some Old school therapeutic In a beaker and it killed AIDS Dead. Wrote up a paper on it. Did the same tests in some other lab environment. Same results - shit killed aids. The moment they put it in a human being...... it did nothing.
The moral of the story was all these other companies are still in the theoretical stage where you get tons of false positives. CYDY has been deemed safe for over a decade and has completed compassionate trials and soon (tomorrow) will have an actual human trail.
Actualy makes me sad because what he’s effectively saying is if this doesn’t work we are probably a ways off, at least in his opinion.
Benign is pretty bold. You’re getting me kind of excited here that this thing might not be snake oil. If this doctor ends up being a master bullshitter I’m going to be all for handing him over to ANTIFA and BLM and letting him be the face of white privilege and an honorary sacrifice.
If this pans out the $$ will be a nice side benefit but the headline here is this is going to make catching COVID benign. That means the world reopens. That means we can travel and not have to walk around in masks. It means sporting events and rock concerts.
Or Krypt from the Internet who has never posted a shred of content knows more than the former head of virology at Stanford University. Maybe that ends up being the case which would suck for humanities sake.
Sorry to say I’m not pulling for your hot take to pan out here.
It’s too easy to insult you. So I will just ask a simple query which will suffice: tell us anything of import that you have accomplished.
literally just one account
Same fella who did the TED Talk at the start of the thread. Maybe he’s wrong. Watch and tell me what you think.
literally just one account
Holy shit. You think making $8k is an accomplishment? Omg this is too much.
ummm when a company tries to secure FDA approval for their main drug candidate at a certain dose without having any data at that dose, what do you call that? I’ve never seen anything so incompetent in all my years involved with biotech.
If this pans out the $$ will be a nice side benefit but the headline here is this is going to make catching COVID benign. That means the world reopens. That means we can travel and not have to walk around in masks. It means sporting events and rock concerts.
Or Krypt from the Internet who has never posted a shred of content knows more than the former head of virology at Stanford University. Maybe that ends up being the case which would suck for humanities sake.
Sorry to say I’m not pulling for your hot take to pan out here.
Moreover, this company’s pipeline is perhaps one of the most outrageous and fraudulent things i’ve ever seen. One drug and targeting every hot button indication imaginable: NASH, HIV, Cancer, and now COVID. This thing will flop on its face, and i’m here for it.
LMFAO THE CEO IS PERSIAN.. IM DONE
Krypt read up on CCR5.
Involved in several trials....HIV phase 3...Some phase 2....some phase 1..so what on the phase 1
Hope OSA didn’t sell
Also, I am going to make a world class trip report when we can go International again, if this goes to the moon.
OSA has close to 500 shares because he likes 4 outer's
I’m hearing a guy confident he has a great tool. Maybe the best tool thus far. Obviously much of it is over my head. I have a basic understanding of what he’s saying, but my question was the same as the one that kept popping up on the screen. Why did he make it sound like it was most effective with mild and moderate cases? Clearly we want to catch those and stop them from progressing, and that lady you posted a month ago was a severe case who greatly improved after 48 hours from ventilator to not needing oxygen. I’m hearing tool though, and that’s great. I am not hearing cure and rendering COVID benign.
It sounds like it’s certainly might be the best tool to stop the cytokine storm that occurs, but to my understanding, that’s not the only problem with Covid.
He sounds confident. I hope it’s the panacea obviously. He was really confident while still feeling kind of slippery to me. Obviously a brilliant guy. Don’t think he’s a straight up huckster or pump and dump artist. Will have to wait and see if it’s simply a great tool or something more. I look forward to seeing what the results are. Hopefully it’s the one.
The goal of CCR5 targeting drugs is to prevent immune responses before they happen (or more likely early in the process).I’m hearing a guy confident he has a great tool. Maybe the best tool thus far. Obviously much of it is over my head. I have a basic understanding of what he’s saying, but my question was the same as the one that kept popping up on the screen. Why did he make it sound like it was most effective with mild and moderate cases? Clearly we want to catch those and stop them from progressing, and that lady you posted a month ago was a severe case who greatly improved after 48 hours from ventilator to not needing oxygen. I’m hearing tool though, and that’s great. I am not hearing cure and rendering COVID benign.
It sounds like it’s certainly might be the best tool to stop the cytokine storm that occurs, but to my understanding, that’s not the only problem with Covid.
He sounds confident. I hope it’s the panacea obviously. He was really confident while still feeling kind of slippery to me. Obviously a brilliant guy. Don’t think he’s a straight up huckster or pump and dump artist. Will have to wait and see if it’s simply a great tool or something more. I look forward to seeing what the results are. Hopefully it’s the one.
This is not a drug that cures anything, it’s not a drug that reduces symptoms, it’s a drug that prevents your body from having an immune response. So if you are already sick it won’t make you better, but it might be able to limit you to mild symptoms or prevent symptoms if tested early and caught early.
The goal of CCR5 targeting drugs is to prevent immune responses before they happen (or more likely early in the process).
This is not a drug that cures anything, it’s not a drug that reduces symptoms, it’s a drug that prevents your body from having an immune response. So if you are already sick it won’t make you better, but it might be able to limit you to mild symptoms or prevent symptoms if tested early and caught early.
That’s what I took from it. I don’t know if that opens up the world and renders masks worthless and everything else. I’ve seen so many people get sick and be dead in 3 days. If it is effective, people are going to be running in to get tested at an insane rate first day theyre sick to prevent any escalation.
If it’s not a drug that reduces symptoms or cures anything, why the YouTube with the 55 year old lady on the ventilator who was put on it, taken off, and the doctor felt it helped her go from that to not even needing oxygen in 72 hours?
I agree his case is more the case you’re making. If that’s true, it would seem that lady just got better by coincidence though
It will still take some time though. It has to come to market first.
If this pans out the $$ will be a nice side benefit but the headline here is this is going to make catching COVID benign. That means the world reopens. That means we can travel and not have to walk around in masks. It means sporting events and rock concerts.
Or Krypt from the Internet who has never posted a shred of content knows more than the former head of virology at Stanford University. Maybe that ends up being the case which would suck for humanities sake.
Sorry to say I’m not pulling for your hot take to pan out here.
As long as it rockets up tomorrow we're good.
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I feel like we have gone over this already. It theoretically reduces inflammation by blocking an important receptor on various types of white blood cells in the inflammatory cascade.. So if it is the inflammation that is causing the problems (which is often the case) then stopping inflammation would cause symptoms to reverse.
That’s what I took from it. I don’t know if that opens up the world and renders masks worthless and everything else. I’ve seen so many people get sick and be dead in 3 days. If it is effective, people are going to be running in to get tested at an insane rate first day theyre sick to prevent any escalation.
If it’s not a drug that reduces symptoms or cures anything, why the YouTube with the 55 year old lady on the ventilator who was put on it, taken off, and the doctor felt it helped her go from that to not even needing oxygen in 72 hours?
I agree his case is more the case you’re making. If that’s true, it would seem that lady just got better by coincidence though
That is also why they are testing the same drug to shotgun so many diseases. Because the drug isn't curing the disease itself. It doesn't do anything to COVID, HIV or cancer cells directly. It is theoretically blocking the inflammation associated with all these diseases. That being said pretty much every chronic disease inflammation is a major part of the problem, so it isn't like there is no logic behind the theory.
Like I said, there are A LOT of drugs that block inflammation. If you really think this drug is going to stand out above the others, then it will be because blocking the CCR5 receptor specifically is more effective and safe than other drugs that act on different molecules.
This drug has been going though trials for awhile, especially as a potential treatment for HIV, with very little buzz around it (that isn't completely self generated) so my suspicion is for HIV there is nothing to indicate that it does very much above the current therapies already out there.
Will it be different with COVID? It is possible, but all this hype with nothing to back it up so far except anecdotes and promises is a cause for skepticism. Also, my understanding is the company itself is basically a skeleton operation. That is why we see the same Persian CEO guy over and over doing all the hyping. There may not be anyone else in the whole company to do it.
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