Vladimir Geshkenbein finishes 62nd in ME and scams his backers

[garrett]

Jamie Gold would be the most obvious example. Or the civil suit against Tobey Maguire et al. As long as you're not breaking the law they are responsible if you can prove it.

Verbal contracts can be binding if you can prove them, an Internet post (where the identity can be confirmed) is as good as any non-notarized agreement.

Jaime tried screwing that guy out of his winning, and I'll admit that is gambling related, that is no way the same thing.
And I still would have a hard time thinking these guys could take him to court or why didn't they?

Maybe there is a way it can possibly end up in court, the same way a bat might fly out of my ass, but we all know it won't. (Or Chino would live in court and not at the poker table.)

My point is this, the same point I've been making.

# 1 I don't care what the law says,
# 2 I don't care what agreement the backers had, or how the forum post reads exactly
# 3 AND I'm certainly not saying this is morally right,
But I am saying this, If he wants out, he is out, and the backers have no say, UNLESS they want to get physical.

Lets get away from what he should have happened & tell me exactly how you (if you were one of this backers), would have stopped him from entering the ME?
I'm saying you couldn't. If there was a way to stop this, Chino wouldn't be in every single tournament he can get in.

You're making the same mistake Chinamaniac has, you are confusing practical with legal. The reason Chino doesn't live in court is two-fold:

#1 -- most of the scamming is done for amounts that don't make litigation practical from a money standpoint
#2 -- you can't get water from a stone and there is no debtors prison, so the outcome is basically unenforceable

I'm not saying they SHOULD do this, I'm simply stating that it is within their rights to do so, and never stop pestering the guy about the money he owes them. If he won millions it would be a slam dunk court case, but since we are dealing with thousands of dollars it's not worth going to court as they can't do anything. If he won millions they could put a lien on his bank accounts and such t get the money.

From a practical standpoint nobody is disagreeing with you, but you guys are dead wrong in thinking that their only recourse is "Gamblers Justice". If Mason Malmuth had a piece of this guy and he pulled this shit he might sue him to simply prove a point (ask Dutch Boyd). Again, it's not about what the practical solution is; the point is you can pursue this as a legal contract if you really wanted to.

Very, very wrong here sir.

You can get liens on them so that in the case they ever do bink, win the lottery, collect an inheritance, end up actually owning anything etc, you get what you are owed, at some point. To play this down like you did when these are often massive amounts of money to normal/poor people like me, is naive and a tad bit ignorant.