Originally Posted by
Sanlmar
You guys embarrassing yourselves speculating about the grand plan. There is no chess being played by this crew.
Maduro likely just pissed off Trump and he was cancelled on some still bizarre charge. Trumpian geopolitics is ALWAYS a personal relationship with any given leader. Even then it’s like a high school romance. I love you. I hate you. We patch things up. It’s no deeper than that.
That we are now allegedly planning to occupy Venezuela is prolly just the result of our addled leaders riff. You think anyone in the cabinet knew about that? There was most likely no such plan and may well be TACO’d before a multiyear disaster ensues.
Then again no one has the sack to counsel Donald.
Anyway international rules have been cancelled and we will see what latitude China or Russia think they too are entitled to. Good times.
The authoritarian vision is indeed fast & efficient but it’s flawed in that it’s entirely character driven
I disagree.
Remember the bombings of the boats? Remember how angry the libs got because "innocent fishermen" (lol) on obvious drug boats were getting killed?
Now, I didn't give a shit that the drug runners were getting killed. Part of the risk you take when you're an international drug runner. However, I did wonder WHY we were doing this. Clearly Venezuela was not the epicenter of the source of illegal US drugs, so why were we so focused upon those particular boats, and no others?
I assumed this was setting up an excuse for something bigger to happen later, and indeed this was it.
There is likely something planned here.
Also... not so fast regarding your conclusions about Russia and China.
Both of these regimes take advantage when they sense weakness. That was why Ukraine was attacked on Biden's watch. He made it very clear on national TV which crossed lines would cause the US to get heavily involved, and which would have us mostly on the sidelines.
This is the type of shit that gives Russia and China pause. Trump is hard to predict. He does shit like this. It's hard for other countries to plan around his unpredictability. That's a good thing. That's why his foreign policy worked so well in his first term, and why Biden's and Obama's were so disasterous.
If this becomes a tedious and expensive nation building effort, or if this ultimately yields nothing positive for the US, people will have questions. I'm not saying that we are underestimating Trump's genius. I'm saying that he's the loose-aggressive player at the table whom many opponents don't understand, and just might win as a result.
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