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    pedophiles getting their earned fate > protecting pedophiles from their earned fate



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Say you're Trump.

    Say the Epstein Files would reveal that you knew about his activities and remained friends with him, but never partook in any of the pedo stuff yourself.

    Say that some prominent Republicans (or their friends) were in there, and pledged undying support to you and your agenda if you don't release them.

    Say that some Democrats (or their friends) are in there, and pledged that they will give occasional support to you and your agenda, sometimes being the breaking-point votes.

    If you release the files, you lose a ton of allies and likely will get nothing done in your second term.

    If you don't release the files, the chance of successfully implementing your desired agenda goes way up.



    What do you do?

    I'm not "defending pedos" here. I'm asking a practical question. You realize that being President is a series of compromises, right?
    The sexual abuse of underage females by the rich, the famous, entrusted elected officials or anyone else is unjustifiable period.

    Withholding information related to such activity is itself a crime.
    There are no compromises

    Trump is President because of his connections to the real money.
    There is no Trump agenda except to maintain the dominance of the hierarchy.

    Crimes against children cannot be thought of as a dilemma for a sitting president.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Say you're Trump.

    Say the Epstein Files would reveal that you knew about his activities and remained friends with him, but never partook in any of the pedo stuff yourself.

    Say that some prominent Republicans (or their friends) were in there, and pledged undying support to you and your agenda if you don't release them.

    Say that some Democrats (or their friends) are in there, and pledged that they will give occasional support to you and your agenda, sometimes being the breaking-point votes.

    If you release the files, you lose a ton of allies and likely will get nothing done in your second term.

    If you don't release the files, the chance of successfully implementing your desired agenda goes way up.



    What do you do?

    I'm not "defending pedos" here. I'm asking a practical question. You realize that being President is a series of compromises, right?
    Or the much more obvious answer which is that a 50 year old man who knows his best friend is fucking troubled teens doesn’t do or say anything because he’s also fucking troubled teens.

    Add in that when you watch the stories of these girls, Maxwell was pure evil. It was her disarming these young girls which made the number grow exponentially. And yet all he did was “wish her well” and now buy her silence with cushy prison time and talk of pardons. He doesn’t find a thing about her or Epstein objectionable. Those are his type of people.

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    Trump is pulling his endorsement for MTG.

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    She has already responded

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardBrodiesCombover. View Post
    Trump is pulling his endorsement for MTG.

    She has already responded
    I was wondering if Trump was ever going to respond to being constantly attacked from the right. Although it is notable that Tucker has been 10x harder on him and his policies than MTG, and not a peep from Trump about it.

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    Notice that every Republican I’ve said for years was awful, between the commentators to the politicians, is now leading this retarded alt-right coup.

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    MTG is safe as she can be in her district and she knew that before she started this. if anything, this will strengthen her there and embolden her. good, this was overdue by trump standards.


    if you follow Boebert and Mace, they have been sucking up to trump online for a while knowing they needed to try to sooth his ego as they knew they would be in his crosshairs. mace is running for gov of sc and will need his help. no idea about how boebert does in colorado.

     
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    Notice that every Republican I’ve said for years was awful, between the commentators to the politicians, is now leading this retarded alt-right coup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Notice that every Republican I’ve said for years was awful, between the commentators to the politicians, is now leading this retarded alt-right coup.
    Really? Because like I didn’t know who Candace Owens was until you made a thread about her and gamergate years ago. Most of us said WTF is gamergate, then looked at her and said she wasn’t a serious person but you disagreed. You made the blexit thread also iirc.

    I don’t recall you being down on Tucker until the last year after a couple decades of being a fan.

    Massie might be the only Republican who is actually conservative and not a sycophant. I don’t love his positions because I’m not a libertarian at heart, but I respect him and he’s smarter than the collective Rubio/Cruz clown show by a million miles. Plus imagine sucking up to a president who calls your dad a killer and wife names with Ted and openly mocked Rubio. Those guys serve on their knees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RichardBrodiesCombover. View Post
    Trump is pulling his endorsement for MTG.

    She has already responded
    I was wondering if Trump was ever going to respond to being constantly attacked from the right. Although it is notable that Tucker has been 10x harder on him and his policies than MTG, and not a peep from Trump about it.
    You seem really stuck on Tucker. Tucker was with the neocons when they were the majority. Tucker is striving to remain relevant while the old guard GOP is now 35% of the GOP. He went one week of mocking Fuentes and tried the gay basement kid line like all the others tried, realized Funetes is now bigger than himself, and simply responded to the market. If he has a skill it’s that he finds a way to be in the GOP mainstream, and the alt right is now the mainstream right and he realizes Trump is old and largely a dead man walking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Notice that every Republican I’ve said for years was awful, between the commentators to the politicians, is now leading this retarded alt-right coup.


    which positions of MTG do you feel are wrong, or in your word, awful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Notice that every Republican I’ve said for years was awful, between the commentators to the politicians, is now leading this retarded alt-right coup.
    Really? Because like I didn’t know who Candace Owens was until you made a thread about her and gamergate years ago. Most of us said WTF is gamergate, then looked at her and said she wasn’t a serious person but you disagreed. You made the blexit thread also iirc.

    I don’t recall you being down on Tucker until the last year after a couple decades of being a fan.

    Massie might be the only Republican who is actually conservative and not a sycophant. I don’t love his positions because I’m not a libertarian at heart, but I respect him and he’s smarter than the collective Rubio/Cruz clown show by a million miles. Plus imagine sucking up to a president who calls your dad a killer and wife names with Ted and openly mocked Rubio. Those guys serve on their knees.
    Is April 2023 early enough for you?

    https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...=1#post1080236

    Lol and that grifter Candace Owens apparently strongly implied in a public video (during the Shapiro flap) that Crowder was getting a divorce, but everyone missed it.

    She was publicly threatening him that he needed to shut up or shit might come out. I don't know how this got past everyone. Guess it got drowned out by all the noise.

    Amazing.

    Note that this was before she was fired from Daily Wire, and before the 10/7 attacks.

    I don't know what you're talking about regarding Owens and Gamergate. The Gamergate issue was in 2014. I first mentioned Owens here in 2019 when I discussed her questioning some hot (but liberal) college professor in a hearing, and how I felt she spoke well (which she did, and usually does).

    I soured on her pretty quickly, as I realized she was a big phony.



    You're right that I didn't criticize Tucker until his turn into alt-rightdom. He completely changed course, so that one I didn't predict.

    I was anti-MTG the entire way, and often included her in lists of Republicans who embarrassed the party.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Notice that every Republican I’ve said for years was awful, between the commentators to the politicians, is now leading this retarded alt-right coup.


    which positions of MTG do you feel are wrong, or in your word, awful?
    Support of QAnon retardation

    Jewish Space Lasers allegation regarding the cause of a California fire

    9/11 hoax claims

    Aggressive claims that the 2020 election was rigged, and called for decertifying Georgia's results

    Anti-Israel obsession despite previously sponsoring a resolution censuring Rashida Tlaib for antisemitism

    Anti-science positions on the COVID vaccine

    Identified as Christian Nationalist and called for GOP to embrace it

    Proposed "national divorce" where red states separate from blue states

    Kissed Trump's ass when convenient to do so, now turned on him

    Pushes obvious lies about "genocide" taking place in Gaza

    Making friends with leftists because they also hate Trump and Israel



    She's a loud, obnoxious, trashy person who isn't very bright. GOP would be best off without her.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post

    Really? Because like I didn’t know who Candace Owens was until you made a thread about her and gamergate years ago. Most of us said WTF is gamergate, then looked at her and said she wasn’t a serious person but you disagreed. You made the blexit thread also iirc.

    I don’t recall you being down on Tucker until the last year after a couple decades of being a fan.

    Massie might be the only Republican who is actually conservative and not a sycophant. I don’t love his positions because I’m not a libertarian at heart, but I respect him and he’s smarter than the collective Rubio/Cruz clown show by a million miles. Plus imagine sucking up to a president who calls your dad a killer and wife names with Ted and openly mocked Rubio. Those guys serve on their knees.
    Is April 2023 early enough for you?

    https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...=1#post1080236

    Lol and that grifter Candace Owens apparently strongly implied in a public video (during the Shapiro flap) that Crowder was getting a divorce, but everyone missed it.

    She was publicly threatening him that he needed to shut up or shit might come out. I don't know how this got past everyone. Guess it got drowned out by all the noise.

    Amazing.

    Note that this was before she was fired from Daily Wire, and before the 10/7 attacks.

    I don't know what you're talking about regarding Owens and Gamergate. The Gamergate issue was in 2014. I first mentioned Owens here in 2019 when I discussed her questioning some hot (but liberal) college professor in a hearing, and how I felt she spoke well (which she did, and usually does).

    I soured on her pretty quickly, as I realized she was a big phony.



    You're right that I didn't criticize Tucker until his turn into alt-rightdom. He completely changed course, so that one I didn't predict.

    I was anti-MTG the entire way, and often included her in lists of Republicans who embarrassed the party.
    I just know you were the first person who ever brought her to my attention. It’s been awhile. I think realizing she’s nuts in 2023 is way late.


    The last year has been a reoccurring theme. Shooters raised by MAGA parents who were at one time radicalized right wing gun nuts end up taking a shot at the president or killing Kirk after becoming disillusioned when they realize MAGA is all bullshit branding and lose their shit.


    Now all these alt right grifters are the kids cultivated and made popular by the MAGA movement and now they are coming back to shoot the whole movement in the fucking head. It’s not like the left made these people famous.

    After all the Antifa boogeyman shit and Trump talking about the very fine people chanting Jews won’t replace us, it seems like the obvious has happened. When liberals kids go through their rebellious stage, they dye their hair blue and shout at rallies and leave no bodies.

    These MAGA raised kids hit their rebellious stage and they come with an AR-15 and now you have an army of groypers that the right cultivated and brought to prominence now shoppikg for zyklon B.

    I think if I had your sensibilities I’d arrive at Trump was worth one shot. That my gut reaction after January 6th was the correct one, and ignoring the Camp Auschwitz guys and convincing myself the wine mom was scary and they weren’t was bad judgment. Not that you had to vote for her. I didn’t.

    MAGA is dead. Which is fine. But the boomerang is going to be bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post

    I was wondering if Trump was ever going to respond to being constantly attacked from the right. Although it is notable that Tucker has been 10x harder on him and his policies than MTG, and not a peep from Trump about it.
    You seem really stuck on Tucker. Tucker was with the neocons when they were the majority. Tucker is striving to remain relevant while the old guard GOP is now 35% of the GOP. He went one week of mocking Fuentes and tried the gay basement kid line like all the others tried, realized Funetes is now bigger than himself, and simply responded to the market. If he has a skill it’s that he finds a way to be in the GOP mainstream, and the alt right is now the mainstream right and he realizes Trump is old and largely a dead man walking.
    His is the most interesting story, as I outlined earlier. And I think you are greatly underestimating his influence in the party and how he shapes the narrative. I dont think the right wing coup going on right now happens at all if it wasn't for him. It is just people like Massie yelling at clouds and no one caring.

    For whatever reason Trump wont push back against him, and I find this just as interesting a conspiracy as all the mainstream ones. If anyone else was leading the charge Trump would have stomped them down a long time ago.

    And he appears to have Vance's ear. So he is potentially going to be an influential part of the party down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post

    I think if I had your sensibilities I’d arrive at Trump was worth one shot. That my gut reaction after January 6th was the correct one, and ignoring the Camp Auschwitz guys and convincing myself the wine mom was scary and they weren’t was bad judgment. Not that you had to vote for her. I didn’t.

    MAGA is dead. Which is fine. But the boomerang is going to be bad.
    Obviously the culture war stuff is predictably bad. But if you are upper middle class (or legitimately wealth) with a safe job/source of income Trump has been good for you economically. Depends on what your priorities are I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post

    You seem really stuck on Tucker. Tucker was with the neocons when they were the majority. Tucker is striving to remain relevant while the old guard GOP is now 35% of the GOP. He went one week of mocking Fuentes and tried the gay basement kid line like all the others tried, realized Funetes is now bigger than himself, and simply responded to the market. If he has a skill it’s that he finds a way to be in the GOP mainstream, and the alt right is now the mainstream right and he realizes Trump is old and largely a dead man walking.
    His is the most interesting story, as I outlined earlier. And I think you are greatly underestimating his influence in the party and how he shapes the narrative. I dont think the right wing coup going on right now happens at all if it wasn't for him. It is just people like Massie yelling at clouds and no one caring.

    For whatever reason Trump wont push back against him. If anyone else was leading the charge Trump would have stomped them down a long time ago.

    And he appears to have Vance's ear. So he is potentially going to be an influential part of the party down the road.
    Trump doesn’t push back, imo, because Tucker seems aligned with Thiel and Sacks and all that crowd, who would probably just replace Trump with JD if he becomes more of a headache than he is worth. Vance is just their handpicked errand boy. They seem content to let Trump run this out if he keeps doing their bidding, but they have a backup plan I think they like a lot more.

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    For the record MTG never said Jewish space lasers, NEVER SAID IT.
    Anyhow
    Now that everyone's done joking about Bubba, what's important to know.

    Epstein was indeed working for Israel.
    Dropsitenews bookmark it
    https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1988995542593204515
    The further you go down the rabbit hole the more you realize that the "t" is silent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post

    I think if I had your sensibilities I’d arrive at Trump was worth one shot. That my gut reaction after January 6th was the correct one, and ignoring the Camp Auschwitz guys and convincing myself the wine mom was scary and they weren’t was bad judgment. Not that you had to vote for her. I didn’t.

    MAGA is dead. Which is fine. But the boomerang is going to be bad.
    Obviously the culture war stuff is predictably bad. But if you are upper middle class (or legitimately wealth) with a safe job/source of income Trump has been good for you economically. Depends on what your priorities are I guess.
    How? The market rose similarly under both Biden and Trump, historically is better with Dems, and while inflation was out of whack for Biden’s term, the $ was strong as we were doing better with regard to Covid recovery than other nations. Now we are generally weaker, doing worse than other countries, and the dollar is shit as he didn’t address debt, and also doesn’t have the benefit of the working class having more disposable income. I don’t know who that works for?

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