IS SEALS WITH CLUBS DONKDOWN??? (Update: Micon charged with a felony in Nevada)

[dapokerzombie]

#Seals4life
In a time where thousands of poker players had their funds stolen and jobs taken...there was 1 brave soul who provided a platform to for this absence. No USD were transferd and poker isnt a crime. Its a sad state when the majority of poker players still won't contact their own state reps to get the casinos on board to get their piece...but will speak venom at a true trailblazer
Long live sWcpoker
#Zombified

[4BET]

Not really. Play money sites and bitcoin sites are two totally different things.

Here is a snippet of the short-lived Alvin Finklestein post about the matter, from August 2014:

Why is bitcoin gambling illegal in the US? Bitcoin gambling is illegal because a bitcoin is an item with value. Not only is it widely accepted that bitcoin can be traded easily for cash, but they can also be used as currency to purchase other items (including from legitimate merchants). There is mass public awareness that bitcoin have monetary value. "We are only gambling for meaningless online tokens" is not a valid defense, as it could be proven in court that nearly every bitcoin user is aware of its monetary value. Furthermore, many bitcoin gambling sites provide tutorials on how to buy and sell bitcoins for cash, thus again making it clear that they are marketing to real money gamblers, rather than those who had obtained bitcoin through non-monetary means.

Zynga Poker (popular play money site) chips are often bought and sold for real cash. Why isn't that illegal? There are a few reasons for this. First, all Zynga Poker members can get chips for free. Second, Zynga itself does not sell the chips, nor do they take any form of rake at their poker table. The chips are sold by third parties unrelated to Zynga. Third, Zynga chips do not have any value outside of Zynga Poker itself. Fourth, Zynga does not direct any of its members to sites where chips can be bought and sold, nor does it market itself as a replacement for existing online gambling sites. Fifth, and most importantly, Zynga chips are not assumed or presented to have any value. If Zynga Poker shut down tomorrow (and confiscated everyone's chips), nobody would have any civil or criminal claim against them, even if they purchased chips from a third party. However, if a bitcoin gambling site closed shop and kept everyone's bitcoin, there would definitely be cause for a criminal investigation against them.

I'm still not convinced that the feds can legally assign monetary value to bitcoin. They already have. In July, 2013, a man who ran a bitcoin scam (and stole only bitcoins -- no cash) was arrested and charged by the SEC. This could not have been done if bitcoin were simply meaningless tokens being traded online.

Funny how you of all people are now saying bitcoin has real value, You are on record here saying bitcoin true value is 0.0 remember?

[4BET]

Micon if you are reading this take my advice here, Get back to vegas, Fill up your pipe and buy a nice rocking chair for your front porch and sit and wait for the feds to arrive, When they do jump up and say" Fuck the man" Obv your wife will be video taping this, This will be the hottest video on utube and you will famous, BTW no hard feeling's when you called me a racist bigot on twitter when I unfollowed you.

[lol wow]

sounds like youre super bitter bro

[sonatine]

can we get muck ficon's girl to contribute something delightful to this thread?

[Pooh]

Holy shit did this thread turn to crap since NBH's last post. Thanks guys.

[Crowe Diddly]

Funny how you of all people are now saying bitcoin has real value, You are on record here saying bitcoin true value is 0.0 remember?

The Indonesian Rupiah is completely worthless. Running a poker game using rupiahs as currency, however, and taking a portion for rake, is illegal as a motherfucker in these here United States of America.


FYI, ppl here saying bitcoin is valueless and not a real currency ≠ bitcoin being valueless, and not a real currency.

[1marley1]

Funny how you of all people are now saying bitcoin has real value, You are on record here saying bitcoin true value is 0.0 remember?

The Indonesian Rupiah is completely worthless. Running a poker game using rupiahs as currency, however, and taking a portion for rake, is illegal as a motherfucker in these here United States of America.


FYI, ppl here saying bitcoin is valueless and not a real currency ≠ bitcoin being valueless, and not a real currency.

1 Indonesian Rupiah equals
0.000078 US Dollar

FYI, Crowe .000078 does not = 0.0

Crowe Diddly is a pompous ass. How were you ever voted pfa's best?

PS, Druff i want my reps back

[RegGaymer]

PS, Druff i want my reps back

Are you having withdrawals?

If you were reinstated with rep function you'd obv go on a neg rep'in spree straight away.

[Crowe Diddly]

The Indonesian Rupiah is completely worthless. Running a poker game using rupiahs as currency, however, and taking a portion for rake, is illegal as a motherfucker in these here United States of America.


FYI, ppl here saying bitcoin is valueless and not a real currency ≠ bitcoin being valueless, and not a real currency.

1 Indonesian Rupiah equals
0.000078 US Dollar

FYI, Crowe .000078 does not = 0.0

Crowe Diddly is a pompous ass. How were you ever voted pfa's best?

PS, Druff i want my reps back

So what you are saying is that even though I said the rupiah is completely valueless, it actually isn't, and that my saying it is valueless on this here message forum has no bearing in the real world? Interesting stuff. Amazingly, that's exactly the point I was trying to make about bitcoins. Go figure...

[DannyDeadWood]

I'll never pretend to know all the moving parts or pieces of SWC, but it was mentioned earlier that fleeing to Antigua might be as much about tax evasion or the reality the IRS is or was right behind the NGC and while your evading tax's in Antigua why not run a little online poker site..

edit: it's not like the Anti government rhetoric Micon spews doesn't go hand in hand with tax evasion....juss saying, as the youth of today might say

[sonatine]

I'll never pretend to know all the moving parts or pieces of SWC, but it was mentioned earlier that fleeing to Antigua might be as much about tax evasion or the reality the IRS is or was right behind the NGC and while your evading tax's in Antigua why not run a little online poker site..

Honestly, this kinda resonates, except what does fleeing to Antigua actually get you with regards to an impending IRS/NGC case? Your money/bank accounts are still exposed, they can and will extradite you, so its just a weird play, the more I look at it, the weirder it gets.

[1marley1]

1 Indonesian Rupiah equals
0.000078 US Dollar

FYI, Crowe .000078 does not = 0.0

Crowe Diddly is a pompous ass. How were you ever voted pfa's best?

PS, Druff i want my reps back

So what you are saying is that even though I said the rupiah is completely valueless, it actually isn't, and that my saying it is valueless on this here message forum has no bearing in the real world? Interesting stuff. Amazingly, that's exactly the point I was trying to make about bitcoins. Go figure...

well, that's a dumb fucking analogy because one is another currency that everyone knows has value and the other is a figment of your imagination

[Pooh]

So what you are saying is that even though I said the rupiah is completely valueless, it actually isn't, and that my saying it is valueless on this here message forum has no bearing in the real world? Interesting stuff. Amazingly, that's exactly the point I was trying to make about bitcoins. Go figure...

well, that's a dumb fucking analogy because one is another currency that everyone knows has value and the other is a figment of your imagination

You sound as angry as me.

[Muck Ficon]

LOL at all the people speculating how much money Micon has......He has nothing....he had just enough money to get him out of the US. You really think this guy can hold on to any sort of money? He's a failure....pisses money away before he has it.....and is it just me....or does his nose get bigger in every video....

[Reno]

LOL at all the people speculating how much money Micon has......He has nothing....he had just enough money to get him out of the US. You really think this guy can hold on to any sort of money? He's a failure....pisses money away before he has it.....and is it just me....or does his nose get bigger in every video....

He has enough to blow a few hundo today. Moving on up...no freerolls

[simpdog]

LOL at all the people speculating how much money Micon has......He has nothing....he had just enough money to get him out of the US. You really think this guy can hold on to any sort of money? He's a failure....pisses money away before he has it.....and is it just me....or does his nose get bigger in every video....

He has enough to blow a few hundo today. Moving on up...no freerolls

He should start up a "rescue Micon fund" and play on twitch for sure

[4BET]

He has enough to blow a few hundo today. Moving on up...no freerolls

He should start up a "rescue Micon fund" and play on twitch for sure

Good idea, You are good for a dime or so

[DRK Star]

Odds of him starting up a GO FUND ME page to get his site started back up?

[Pooh]

Odds of him starting up a GO FUND ME page to get his site started back up?

Interesting. Two posts within two minutes on this site with go fund me references. Is there something you want to tell us?