Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

As I stated in the coronavirus thread, the Norway situation should give you some pause. 96% of the population didn't mask through late August, and yet their death numbers were low. Why? Because they were told to simply social distance and be careful. It's possible this approach was actually better, because didn't have the mask security blanket, and thus felt less willing to go to public places!
Their death numbers are low because they dealt with the virus in spring. Last time they had more than 1 death a day on average was on May 14th. And that correlates heavily with infection numbers. Masks don't do anything when almost no one is infected.

On the other hand in the US you've had 10-20 times as many deaths per capita in the summer and fall. You never dealt with the virus. You started the flu season with insane amount of infections.

Last time almost every country started with zero infections halfway through the flu season.
How did they "deal" with it in the spring? That's not how this works. It's not like they had a massive infection in the spring and got herd immunity. Their numbers were never bad.

It's very possible other factors are at play with Norway which nobody understands. However, the effectiveness of masking has been widely overrated and overstated in the US, partially because Trump and the right were perceived to be anti-mask, so therefore the Democrats and media had to be wildly pro-mask. As I've said in two other threads here, I believe masks do help, but I also believe there's a false sense of security factor with masks, which might be motivating people to go out. Not only do I personally know two people who recently got it exactly for that reason, but I have talked to others acting recklessly who assure me, "It's fine, I always wear a mask, I'm responsible. I probably won't get it."

Anyway I really don't want to have this discussion anymore in this thread, since there are already too many threads hijacked by COVID stuff.