Active shooter in Las Vegas

[MumblesBadly]

Can you please sticky this post to the front page, so every time I log on I can get a good laugh?

It was a fucked up post IMO. Trying to speculate on political motivation, especially speculation of a group you dont like being involved, when so many people on this board could have been effected by this was very callous IMO. Can't really put my finger on it right now but it definitely didn't sit well with me. Druff isn't the only one... I've seen a shit ton of it on social media. Its sad. And once again mintjewlips and xfactor once again prove to be moronic douchenozzles.

Not to mention that siblings can have radically different political leanings. For example, one of my brothers is almost left of Bernie Sanders, while another adores what Trump is doing (mostly), wants a Muslim registry, and opposes gun regulations, and a third isn't *that* conservative, has a small arsenal of personal firearms but supports universal background checks.

[Suicide King]

[MumblesBadly]

confirmed AR15 modified to fully automatic (similar M16).

Technically, not fully auto, as a bump stock uses the recoil to allow a shooter to simulate full auto. But it does require only a little training and shooting discipline to operate it as such. And the effective fire rate is *much* lower than actual full auto. But prolly close enough for government work.

[Tellafriend]

[vegas1369]

One thing that is going around amongst locals is that there was a woman that fought her way up to the front of the crowd last night before this all went down and was telling people "you are all going to die". Supposedly there is video of this floating around although I haven't seen it.

Also, lots of people around town feel more shit happened last night than is being reported. I don't buy into this too much, but a pretty solid guy I know in the security world (not jsearles type of security, real security) is saying there is something very odd going on on the strip today. He said it just seems like a lot more went down judging by the way everything is sectioned off and the amount of searches going on.

It's a very down vibe everywhere right now, which obviously is to be expected. If you've lived here for a while considering the numbers it's likely you'll be touched by this in one way or another. I had friends and employees there, and like I said, I left Caesars about an hour before this all went down, and my mom literally drove on LV Blvd right in between where it happened after we left Caesars. Can't help but be shaken up about this. I've been through a lot in my life... Been pistol whipped, held up at gun point twice, jumped numerous times, but for some reason this just bothers me so much more. Just the vulnerability now of being in large crowds is something I can't get out of my head whenever I go out to an event. Literally had this exact conversation over dinner last night right before this happened. I had just gone to Bill Burr Friday night at the Park Theater and just kept thinking about how vulnerable we were. Same thing was in my head at Chappelle. Something like this was literally only a matter of time, and I've thought this for a long time. Knowing what I know about hotel security, without getting into too much detail, it definitely leaves a lot to be desired. I walked into the casino that I worked at for many years and couldn't ever believe how lax the security was at employee entrances, in garages, etc..

Luckily none of my family, friends, or employees were hit. I have one employee that got trampled last night, but she is ok. Freaked out big time, but alive.

[vegas1369]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7978821.html

[sonatine]

One thing that is going around amongst locals is that there was a woman that fought her way up to the front of the crowd last night before this all went down and was telling people "you are all going to die". Supposedly there is video of this floating around although I haven't seen it.

Also, lots of people around town feel more shit happened last night then is being reported. I don't buy into this too much, but a pretty solid guy I know in the security world (not jsearles type of security, real security) is saying there is something very odd going on on the strip today. He said it just seems like a lot more went down judging by the way everything is sectioned off and the amount of searches going on.

i think what a lot of people are assuming are indications of some vast coverup are really just the fbi chasing down the literally dozens of insane nonsense moments that now, by protocol, have to be run to ground as potential leads.

eg on police scanner last night, someone mentioned a WMA & 2 WFA's who were spotted taking a fire extinguisher and putting it behind a potted plant or something. probably didnt even happen, probably just fps_russia dialing in and reporting it so someone, somewhere has to listen to him. but all that shit has to be taken seriously and ticked off the list.

[The_Lurker]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.d80f8903c114

Geary Danley was not the gunman in Las Vegas who killed at least 50 people late Sunday. But for hours on the far-right Internet, would-be sleuths scoured Danley’s Facebook likes, family photographs and marital history to try to “prove” that he was.

Danley, according to an archived version of a Facebook page bearing that name, might have been married to a Marilou Danley. Police were looking for a woman by that name in the hours after the shooting, but later said they did not think she was involved. To name someone as a mass murderer based on that evidence would be irresponsible and dangerous. But that’s exactly what a portion of the far-right Internet did overnight.

The briefest look at the viral threads and tweets falsely naming Geary Danley as the attacker makes it easy to guess why a bunch of right-wing trolls latched on to him: His Facebook profile indicated that he might be a liberal.

......




This narrative, backed by no evidence or confirmation of Danley’s involvement in the Las Vegas shooting, spread quickly. That Everipedia post had 77,000 views as of Monday morning, just hours after it was created. It has since been edited and no longer names Danley as the shooter. His personal photos, taken from Facebook, were still plastered all over the page.

But even as those rumors were thoroughly, conclusively debunked, this false narrative was picked up in the algorithms that, increasingly, have come to define a person’s public-facing identities. During a search I ran about 9 a.m. Monday, hours after the real shooting suspect — a different person — was identified, the entire first page of Google results for a search for Geary Danley’s full name were links to news sites, YouTube videos, message boards and even several /pol/ threads repeating the rumor about him. There was one exception: a link to Danley’s personal Facebook page. There were no links to debunkings or to any mainstream news outlets that had identified Paddock as the attacker.


And for a time on Monday morning, one of those 4chan threads falsely naming Danley as the shooter was promoted by Google as a “top story” for searches for his name, as one BuzzFeed reporter noticed.

The right-wing news site Gateway Pundit also picked up these rumors as fact in a now-deleted article. That article’s URL was still the top result for Danley’s name on Google in the early hours of Monday morning. The headline, still visible in search results, and remaining on the first page of results for Danley when I ran my 9 a.m. search, read, “Las Vegas Shooter Reportedly a Democrat Who Liked Rachel Maddow, MoveOn.org and Associated with anti-Trump Army.”

And Druff took the bait, Hook, Line, and Sinker

[sonatine]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.d80f8903c114

Geary Danley was not the gunman in Las Vegas who killed at least 50 people late Sunday. But for hours on the far-right Internet, would-be sleuths scoured Danley’s Facebook likes, family photographs and marital history to try to “prove” that he was.

Danley, according to an archived version of a Facebook page bearing that name, might have been married to a Marilou Danley. Police were looking for a woman by that name in the hours after the shooting, but later said they did not think she was involved. To name someone as a mass murderer based on that evidence would be irresponsible and dangerous. But that’s exactly what a portion of the far-right Internet did overnight.

The briefest look at the viral threads and tweets falsely naming Geary Danley as the attacker makes it easy to guess why a bunch of right-wing trolls latched on to him: His Facebook profile indicated that he might be a liberal.

......


This narrative, backed by no evidence or confirmation of Danley’s involvement in the Las Vegas shooting, spread quickly. That Everipedia post had 77,000 views as of Monday morning, just hours after it was created. It has since been edited and no longer names Danley as the shooter. His personal photos, taken from Facebook, were still plastered all over the page.

But even as those rumors were thoroughly, conclusively debunked, this false narrative was picked up in the algorithms that, increasingly, have come to define a person’s public-facing identities. During a search I ran about 9 a.m. Monday, hours after the real shooting suspect — a different person — was identified, the entire first page of Google results for a search for Geary Danley’s full name were links to news sites, YouTube videos, message boards and even several /pol/ threads repeating the rumor about him. There was one exception: a link to Danley’s personal Facebook page. There were no links to debunkings or to any mainstream news outlets that had identified Paddock as the attacker.


And for a time on Monday morning, one of those 4chan threads falsely naming Danley as the shooter was promoted by Google as a “top story” for searches for his name, as one BuzzFeed reporter noticed.

The right-wing news site Gateway Pundit also picked up these rumors as fact in a now-deleted article. That article’s URL was still the top result for Danley’s name on Google in the early hours of Monday morning. The headline, still visible in search results, and remaining on the first page of results for Danley when I ran my 9 a.m. search, read, “Las Vegas Shooter Reportedly a Democrat Who Liked Rachel Maddow, MoveOn.org and Associated with anti-Trump Army.”

http://justicecrunch.com/fake-news-l...t-compilation/



every day i feel a little less comfortable about dedicating my adult professional life to the health of the internet.

[SrslySirius]

I could make a bomb out of legal fireworks that would make a grenade look like a firecracker. Should be ban fireworks?

I don't really have a stance on gun control, but this logic is retarded.



This guy built a nuclear reactor in his shed with elements (americium and thorium) sourced from smoke detectors and lanterns. Those sores on his face are from radiation exposure.

You can make mustard gas at home with standard cleaning products.

Obviously there's no need to ban smoke detectors or Clorox, but that doesn't mean it's therefore fine to stock chemical and nuclear weapons at Walmart just because they're comprised of legal components, nor does it mean that banning the sale of said weapons would somehow be a "slippery slope".

[Shizzmoney]

Las Vegas Shooter’s Father Was Bank Robber on FBI’s Most Wanted List

http://www.thewrap.com/las-vegas-sho...t-wanted-list/

[lol wow]

What tine means by protecting the internet is just him hunched over like 5 cable modems

[MumblesBadly]

Not a gun porn post this time. Instead, a link to an article with pics and very brief bio info on some of the victims.

What We Know About The Las Vegas Shooting Victims
These are the lives lost at the Route 91 Harvest Festival.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59...b06791bb11d6b1

P.S. Go ahead and try to read a bit of this article and not get sick to your stomach over the tragic insanity of so many good people being senselessly snuffed out like that.

[Lord of the Fraud]

Then why doesn't this happen in developed countries where there's tight gun control?

No white people are driving off cliffs or through crowds because they lost their house playing video poker.

I won't ridicule you over the fact that you've never heard of Anders Breivik.

Or the fact that a white guy just ran a truck through a crowd in England in 2017, although I will cede to your point that it wasn't specifically about video poker...

This goes back to my question about why all cars can go above 85mph when you cant legally go above that speed anywhere in public in the US.

And it's funny you mention that no white people are doing this, as if their race or notice has any impact on whether certain guns should be banned.

I won't ridicule you over the fact that your logic and analogies ITT are bordering on insanity.

I addressed your hideous bus off a cliff scenario in relation to a ban on guns. So why you bring up Breivik I have no idea.

The cunt who drove his van into those Muslims was a terrorist on a revenge mission targeting a particular race.

Vegas shooter was a vile bastard who seemingly wanted to break all records by killing a bunch of innocent randoms. You made his kill list by just having a beating heart. A common theme with many past American mass shooters.

Sick fact: More people will die via a bullet in America today than died in Vegas last night.

[lewfather]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7978821.html

when she was asked to describe what this individual looked like she said hispanic about 5'6'' and she was with a man who was also a 5'6''ish hispanic both of whom were ejected from the event by security. the girl in the video wasn't even there during the shooting and said she left "like 45 minutes before it happened"

[Mintjewlips]

I could make a bomb out of legal fireworks that would make a grenade look like a firecracker. Should be ban fireworks?

I don't really have a stance on gun control, but this logic is retarded.



This guy built a nuclear reactor in his shed with elements (americium and thorium) sourced from smoke detectors and lanterns. Those sores on his face are from radiation exposure.

You can make mustard gas at home with standard cleaning products.

Obviously there's no need to ban smoke detectors or Clorox, but that doesn't mean it's therefore fine to stock chemical and nuclear weapons at Walmart just because they're comprised of legal components, nor does it mean that banning the sale of said weapons would somehow be a "slippery slope".

The percentage of law bidding citizens that own assault riffles far outnumbers the percentage of people that commit these violent acts. It's unfair to punish the masses for the crimes of the 1% ( may be smaller).

[SrslySirius]

The percentage of law bidding citizens that own assault riffles far outnumbers the percentage of people that commit these violent acts. It's unfair to punish the masses for the crimes of the 1% ( may be smaller).

Not sure why you're responding to me. That's a different argument entirely, and not one that I'm refuting.

[1marley1]

Not trying to be a dick but arent guns laws largely left up to the states? If so, why do some many heavily leaning blue states have lax gun laws? I mean even Bernie Sanders was taking a lot of shit for his stance on guns.

Nevada is only recently turning blue and obviously still backward on gun laws.

Massachusetts is heavily blue state with strictest gun laws and lowest gun violence. But not for long, if 'states rights' republicans get their way...

https://chriscollins.house.gov/media...-guarantee-act

[cmoney]

One thing that is going around amongst locals is that there was a woman that fought her way up to the front of the crowd last night before this all went down and was telling people "you are all going to die". Supposedly there is video of this floating around although I haven't seen it.

Also, lots of people around town feel more shit happened last night than is being reported. I don't buy into this too much, but a pretty solid guy I know in the security world (not jsearles type of security, real security) is saying there is something very odd going on on the strip today. He said it just seems like a lot more went down judging by the way everything is sectioned off and the amount of searches going on.

It's a very down vibe everywhere right now, which obviously is to be expected. If you've lived here for a while considering the numbers it's likely you'll be touched by this in one way or another. I had friends and employees there, and like I said, I left Caesars about an hour before this all went down, and my mom literally drove on LV Blvd right in between where it happened after we left Caesars. Can't help but be shaken up about this. I've been through a lot in my life... Been pistol whipped, held up at gun point twice, jumped numerous times, but for some reason this just bothers me so much more. Just the vulnerability now of being in large crowds is something I can't get out of my head whenever I go out to an event. Literally had this exact conversation over dinner last night right before this happened. I had just gone to Bill Burr Friday night at the Park Theater and just kept thinking about how vulnerable we were. Same thing was in my head at Chappelle. Something like this was literally only a matter of time, and I've thought this for a long time. Knowing what I know about hotel security, without getting into too much detail, it definitely leaves a lot to be desired. I walked into the casino that I worked at for many years and couldn't ever believe how lax the security was at employee entrances, in garages, etc..

Luckily none of my family, friends, or employees were hit. I have one employee that got trampled last night, but she is ok. Freaked out big time, but alive.

Glad to hear you are ok man. For me it is the familiarity of Vegas , lack of motive thus far, as well as how it was carried out that is getting me. If I had lost someone important to me to something like this, I wouldn't be able to recover. I would just give up.

58 dead but people sometimes forget what "injured" means. People could be permanently brain damaged, lost limps and so much more. And even if you weren't injured, this isnt "safe space" BS trauma but real trauma that you have to deal with the rest of your life.

so sad.

[cmoney]

Not trying to be a dick but arent guns laws largely left up to the states? If so, why do some many heavily leaning blue states have lax gun laws? I mean even Bernie Sanders was taking a lot of shit for his stance on guns.

Nevada is only recently turning blue and obviously still backward on gun laws.

Massachusetts is heavily blue state with strictest gun laws and lowest gun violence. But not for long, if 'states rights' republicans get their way...

https://chriscollins.house.gov/media...-guarantee-act

Yeah, but there are so many other states that Trump didnt even try to turn as he knew he had no chance. Yet these states have super lax guns laws. Oregon/Vermont are good examples.