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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    im very curious to see what CL does in 25 hours.

    yeah i was short.


     
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    were you really trading crude futures based on this nonsense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    were you really trading crude futures based on this nonsense?




    yes.



    yes i was.

     
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    full disclosure i was using prop accounts so very little actual capital was at risk on my end.
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    Diddy and Maduro both had all of their oil taken from them

     
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    Show trial confirmed, all their phony terror crap and false flags get handled by Hellerstein.
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    You guys embarrassing yourselves speculating about the grand plan. There is no chess being played by this crew.

    Maduro likely just pissed off Trump and he was cancelled on some still bizarre charge. Trumpian geopolitics is ALWAYS a personal relationship with any given leader. Even then it’s like a high school romance. I love you. I hate you. We patch things up. It’s no deeper than that.

    That we are now allegedly planning to occupy Venezuela is prolly just the result of our addled leaders riff. You think anyone in the cabinet knew about that? There was most likely no such plan and may well be TACO’d before a multiyear disaster ensues.

    Then again no one has the sack to counsel Donald.

    Anyway international rules have been cancelled and we will see what latitude China or Russia think they too are entitled to. Good times.

    The authoritarian vision is indeed fast & efficient but it’s flawed in that it’s entirely character driven

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    theres an interesting theory being bandied about by Anonymous. they claim the lions share of maduro's wealth has been exfilled to russia + the us, and that hes already purchased his retirement villa in dubai, and that this is all basically death theater that was roughly scripted out under the table a long time ago.

    it would be odd if they just invented all that. will be interesting to see if maduro 'cuts a miracle deal' in the name of a peaceful transition or some silly shit and quietly capers off into dubais sunset while bari makes sure everyone is fixed on whatever they trot out next.

    https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/2008050012329230838
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    You guys embarrassing yourselves speculating about the grand plan. There is no chess being played by this crew.

    Maduro likely just pissed off Trump and he was cancelled on some still bizarre charge. Trumpian geopolitics is ALWAYS a personal relationship with any given leader. Even then it’s like a high school romance. I love you. I hate you. We patch things up. It’s no deeper than that.

    That we are now allegedly planning to occupy Venezuela is prolly just the result of our addled leaders riff. You think anyone in the cabinet knew about that? There was most likely no such plan and may well be TACO’d before a multiyear disaster ensues.

    Then again no one has the sack to counsel Donald.

    Anyway international rules have been cancelled and we will see what latitude China or Russia think they too are entitled to. Good times.

    The authoritarian vision is indeed fast & efficient but it’s flawed in that it’s entirely character driven
    Rinse and repeat, it's just more of the same old shit... much more brazen.

    Your oil is our oil. Our interests trump your interests.
    The oil isn't really the priority, your dollar is the number one concern.

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    This is all rather entertaining really.

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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    You guys embarrassing yourselves speculating about the grand plan. There is no chess being played by this crew.

    Maduro likely just pissed off Trump and he was cancelled on some still bizarre charge. Trumpian geopolitics is ALWAYS a personal relationship with any given leader. Even then it’s like a high school romance. I love you. I hate you. We patch things up. It’s no deeper than that.

    That we are now allegedly planning to occupy Venezuela is prolly just the result of our addled leaders riff. You think anyone in the cabinet knew about that? There was most likely no such plan and may well be TACO’d before a multiyear disaster ensues.

    Then again no one has the sack to counsel Donald.

    Anyway international rules have been cancelled and we will see what latitude China or Russia think they too are entitled to. Good times.

    The authoritarian vision is indeed fast & efficient but it’s flawed in that it’s entirely character driven
    I disagree.

    Remember the bombings of the boats? Remember how angry the libs got because "innocent fishermen" (lol) on obvious drug boats were getting killed?

    Now, I didn't give a shit that the drug runners were getting killed. Part of the risk you take when you're an international drug runner. However, I did wonder WHY we were doing this. Clearly Venezuela was not the epicenter of the source of illegal US drugs, so why were we so focused upon those particular boats, and no others?

    I assumed this was setting up an excuse for something bigger to happen later, and indeed this was it.

    There is likely something planned here.


    Also... not so fast regarding your conclusions about Russia and China.

    Both of these regimes take advantage when they sense weakness. That was why Ukraine was attacked on Biden's watch. He made it very clear on national TV which crossed lines would cause the US to get heavily involved, and which would have us mostly on the sidelines.

    This is the type of shit that gives Russia and China pause. Trump is hard to predict. He does shit like this. It's hard for other countries to plan around his unpredictability. That's a good thing. That's why his foreign policy worked so well in his first term, and why Biden's and Obama's were so disasterous.

    If this becomes a tedious and expensive nation building effort, or if this ultimately yields nothing positive for the US, people will have questions. I'm not saying that we are underestimating Trump's genius. I'm saying that he's the loose-aggressive player at the table whom many opponents don't understand, and just might win as a result.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    You guys embarrassing yourselves speculating about the grand plan. There is no chess being played by this crew.

    Maduro likely just pissed off Trump and he was cancelled on some still bizarre charge. Trumpian geopolitics is ALWAYS a personal relationship with any given leader. Even then it’s like a high school romance. I love you. I hate you. We patch things up. It’s no deeper than that.

    That we are now allegedly planning to occupy Venezuela is prolly just the result of our addled leaders riff. You think anyone in the cabinet knew about that? There was most likely no such plan and may well be TACO’d before a multiyear disaster ensues.

    Then again no one has the sack to counsel Donald.

    Anyway international rules have been cancelled and we will see what latitude China or Russia think they too are entitled to. Good times.

    The authoritarian vision is indeed fast & efficient but it’s flawed in that it’s entirely character driven
    Rinse and repeat, it's just more of the same old shit... much more brazen.

    Your oil is our oil. Our interests trump your interests.
    The oil isn't really the priority, your dollar is the number one concern.

    I'll be super honest.
    Nobody really cares less it directly effects them, I include myself in this group.
    I don't really care, I own multiple properties, successful business. I'm surrounded with good'ish people.
    Most of my crypto is gone and I'm sitting on a large hoard of silver.
    My biggest dilemma today was which Rolex should I wear.

    This is all rather entertaining really.
    Probably should take the profit on the silver and be done.

    Go look at what happened in 1980. Sadly I'm old enough to remember.

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