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    where's Druff? we didn't exactly vote for this shit did we..??

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    the Venezuela people are about to find out what it means to be freed and liberated by 'Merica... just ask Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya ..etc... Rubio for Venezuela President 2026...

    edit: Hegseth for Rubio's VP...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dollarboxcar View Post
    where's Druff? we didn't exactly vote for this shit did we..??
    I don’t want a big nation building exercise, but this could easily have a greater purpose (beyond just getting oil) which will become apparent later.

    The suggestion that a destabilizing Middle East could leave us with oil shortages isn’t a bad one.

    As crazy as this all seems, it might actually make sense.

    Maduro’s removal was incredibly easy and took less than one day.

    He wasn’t a democratically elected leader, but rather had control due to force.

    The people of the country are very happy to see it, which was predictable.

    We now have access to tons of oil.

    Put a puppet in charge there until fair elections can be held, and establish close relations with whoever wins.

    There’s a lot of positive that comes from all of this, as long as we don’t take on a nation building burden.


    This is nothing like what Russia did to Ukraine. That was a territory grab, an attempt to overthrow a democratically elected leader, and nobody in Ukraine wanted Russia there.

    Obv this is about oil and getting a leg up on China/Russia, and not about drugs or the other stated reasons for arresting him. But that doesn’t make it bad or wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 1dollarboxcar View Post
    where's Druff? we didn't exactly vote for this shit did we..??
    I don’t want a big nation building exercise, but this could easily have a greater purpose (beyond just getting oil) which will become apparent later.

    The suggestion that a destabilizing Middle East could leave us with oil shortages isn’t a bad one.

    As crazy as this all seems, it might actually make sense.

    Maduro’s removal was incredibly easy and took less than one day.

    He wasn’t a democratically elected leader, but rather had control due to force.

    The people of the country are very happy to see it, which was predictable.

    We now have access to tons of oil.

    Put a puppet in charge there until fair elections can be held, and establish close relations with whoever wins.

    There’s a lot of positive that comes from all of this, as long as we don’t take on a nation building burden.


    This is nothing like what Russia did to Ukraine. That was a territory grab, an attempt to overthrow a democratically elected leader, and nobody in Ukraine wanted Russia there.

    Obv this is about oil and getting a leg up on China/Russia, and not about drugs or the other stated reasons for arresting him. But that doesn’t make it bad or wrong.
    Could be the opposite of nation building if we submit a bill payable in Oil for services rendered.

    I mean this is like 50-75 years down the road but Id rather see Venezuela become the 51st state over Puerto Rico.

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    Shame this woman gets judged by her look s as she has a great track record on this stuff

    https://twitter.com/nikkibarnesfl/status/2007655591880393173
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    Quote Originally Posted by BetCheckBet View Post
    Shame this woman gets judged by her look s as she has a great track record on this stuff

    https://twitter.com/nikkibarnesfl/status/2007655591880393173
    Doesn't seem like Trump is interested in trying to install Machado. Seems for now he is trying to make things work with the rest of the Junta, with Maduro out of the picture.

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    Here's a question for all of my Democrat friends who are decrying the US capture of Maduro in Venezuala. What’s the difference between President Obama ordering US forces to enter a sovereign nation, without their permission, to intentionally kill Osama Bin Laden, who was under a US indictment (issued in 1998, under the Clinton administration) and President Trump ordering US forces to capture Nicolas Maduro—unharmed--to prosecute him under a US indictment for narco-trafficking issued in 2020?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dollarboxcar View Post
    where's Druff? we didn't exactly vote for this shit did we..??
    He has to check with his Zionist overlords before he can issue a comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    Here's a question for all of my Democrat friends who are decrying the US capture of Maduro in Venezuala. What’s the difference between President Obama ordering US forces to enter a sovereign nation, without their permission, to intentionally kill Osama Bin Laden, who was under a US indictment (issued in 1998, under the Clinton administration) and President Trump ordering US forces to capture Nicolas Maduro—unharmed--to prosecute him under a US indictment for narco-trafficking issued in 2020?


    Not surprising this A-rab has a problem with us killing the guy responsible for 9/11

     
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    Once drug gangs were classified as “terrorists” you knew this shit was coming.

    And it’s not surprising that Dems are complaining, if Biden did this they would cheer and right wingers would be complaining, it’s just how stupid our two party system is now.

    If the left was truly anti fascist, they would be celebrating since madero basically acts like a fascist, even though technically he’s authoritarian.….but they aren’t because most of these “influencers” don’t actually know what fascism is…..to them it’s a buzzword to insult Trump. Kind of like Socialist is a buzzword to insult the left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texter View Post
    Once drug gangs were classified as “terrorists” you knew this shit was coming.

    And it’s not surprising that Dems are complaining, if Biden did this they would cheer and right wingers would be complaining, it’s just how stupid our two party system is now.

    If the left was truly anti fascist, they would be celebrating since madero basically acts like a fascist, even though technically he’s authoritarian.….but they aren’t because most of these “influencers” don’t actually know what fascism is…..to them it’s a buzzword to insult Trump. Kind of like Socialist is a buzzword to insult the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Why the fuck should we care what that 3rd world American hating trash thinks? He can fuck off to Qatar and butt fuck camels with Tucker for all I care.

    What is your obsession with anti-American third world biotrash, that you keep polluting this forum with them?

    Why dont you just convert to Islam, move to Dearborn, spend the rest of your life fantasizing about the afterlife with 72 virgins who never get periods, and get it over with already? Since you love these people so much and care so much what they have to say.

    At least Orko posts mainly Russian propaganda. All your propaganda is third world Islamist slop. Stop it already.


    he's American.


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    so ahhhh vz apparently still has laws and so they just appointed maduro's second in command president and shes a deeply hardline socialist who is already blaming the jews for what happened so we might have accomplished much less than nothing with this raid...


    like i know what you know but shes not standing behind the podium and saying 'ok well i guess we are an american puppet regime now and we will let them run our oil reserves in return for social stability and resources' or whatever trump told us this was about. quite the opposite actually.
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    also rubio declaring boy howdy that was easy lets do cuba now is going to get us a second cuban missile crisis, guaranteed.

    no one gave a shit about vz but cuba is a very thinly veiled russian proxy state and has been for decades.

    swapping ukraine for cuba would be kinda brilliant i guess but im not sure what exactly we get from cuba aside from removing a thorn in the side of the domestic intelligence community. they dont have oil, they dont have rare earths do they? so whats the strategic pitch here?

    i suppose weve quietly given up on taiwan as a cause and are just redrawing the lines before the dust settles and everyone has to worry about getting radioactive fallout out of drinking water in earnest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    so ahhhh vz apparently still has laws and so they just appointed maduro's second in command president and shes a deeply hardline socialist who is already blaming the jews for what happened so we might have accomplished much less than nothing with this raid...


    like i know what you know but shes not standing behind the podium and saying 'ok well i guess we are an american puppet regime now and we will let them run our oil reserves in return for social stability and resources' or whatever trump told us this was about. quite the opposite actually.

    btw i had some really interesting plans for /CL in 4 hours and this kinda blows them up completely.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Hopefully this works out better than overthrowing Gaddafi.

    Which was also done without congress approval.

    And remember Cuntlary after it happened….she is a disgusting person


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    This guy is 61 years old and shouldn't be making Tiktok videos.

     
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