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    Utah is the biggest anti gambling state in the union.No gambling allowed is in their state constitution. West Wendover and Mesquite are safe. Idaho has indian casinos. There are 2 more planned for MountIn Home which may have some affect on Jackpot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Utah is the biggest anti gambling state in the union.No gambling allowed is in their state constitution. West Wendover and Mesquite are safe. Idaho has indian casinos. There are 2 more planned for MountIn Home which may have some affect on Jackpot.
    On Utah- Anything is possible when people want to pay you.

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    OMG, just remove this worthless feature in the rooms. Ive stayed at a lot of Vegas hotels, but never Paris and wont go there in the future.




    Checked into the Paris earlier this week and called the front desk to request the mini bar be removed so our toddler doesn’t financially ruin us. They quoted us $75/day to have it taken out of our room. After talking to a second manager, they so graciously lowered the price to $25 a day.

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    "Been to Vegas once so far and certainly plan to return, but you'd have to pay me to stay at Ceasars. Those crooks charged me $45 for one of the items on top of the mini fridge that I didn't use or remove. I even sent a picture before we left the room showing that all items were still there. They kept sending me in circles via email to new contacts to get reimbursed till I just gave up. Fuck Caesars. "

    "this is one of many reasons why Vegas is dying and going bankrupt, literally everything is nickel and dimed and at 10x the price. you can expect to spend thousands of dollars when just staying there for a few days even if you dont decide to go wild at the casinos. "

    "Vegas is no longer the haven of great hospitality and cheap food it once was as recently as to 2010’s. I had a business trip to Bellagio arriving very late (at 10pm) a few weeks ago. I had booked two suites. They were not ready. Front desk guy says “I have great deal for you! A two bedroom 5 bathroom penthouse suite.” It was just two bedrooms sharing a living area that cost significantly less than the suites I purchased (no refund or discount offered). I had to treck down there and throw a fit. Which really sucked because I was spending real money (it was week of SEMA so rooms were already very expensive). I was never a big gambler but I was brand loyal to MGM and spent money on site so I was once treated very well. It now seems like you are just nickel and dimed for everything and the once affordable food is all as expensive as NYC."

    "MGM went downhill almost overnight. It’s crazy how bad they’ve become. It’s almost like they train their staff to gaslight customers. I’ve had similar experiences with suites (not just MGM) and it makes YOU feel like the bad guy for demanding what you paid for. Imagine you were a first time visitor. No wonder so many people go once and never again."

    "We just stayed at Paris and I took a before and after photo in case they tried to charge us. Unreal how much that stuff costs....and who knows how long those items have been sitting in that hotel room."

    "Fuck Vegas at this point. They sure have shot themselves in the foot, over and over and over again. They will shoot their foot tomorrow, too. Just stay tuned."

    "Glad I'm not the only one who has requested this. Those MF's at Venetian couldn't care less either. I imagine they prefer your toddler to raid the candy and charge you. They also said it was on a scale so I couldn't move it or I'd be charged!"

    "That's insane. I see items containing peanuts and potatoes on that try. If those items get opened in the room, there's people in my family who would need to get jabbed with an EpiPen. It's insane they want to charge to to remove that, especially since in some cases it could be for health reasons like I mentioned. Sure, you be able to talk to a manager and get them to agree to remove it but screw that, especially with the mini-fridge not available to use. I haven't stayed in a hotel in Vegas in over a decade, since my little sister used to live in Henderson and my uncle and aunt live still do. But dang, If they ever move I'm not staying at a hotel in Vegas. Screw that. $25 a day for the privilege of removing items people in your family are allergic to from the room is absolutely nuts."

    "We were staying at the Bellagio once (work thing, they paid, no choice) and they have the regular mini-fridge setup plus another area built into the entertainment center full of drinks and snacks that was open on all sides and on a weighted plate. So if we moved anything for more than a minute or two it was charged to the room. We tiptoed around that damn thing for a week. Just one of the reasons I’d never recommend the Bellagio."

    "Meanwhile, I went to a rather nice tribal casino recently (Harrah's at Cherokee) and it has a 150,000 sq/ft casino floor with $5 beers and reasonably priced restaurants. Plus, 500 sq/ft hotel rooms that actually have a microwave and fridge!"

    "Caesars has been living off their past reputation as a premier destination. Nationwide they have lowered their standards and started a campaign of blatantly ripping off their best customers. Between the changes in the benefits of their players cards to the limited access of their VIP lounges, they have lost so many customers that I don’t know how they can still compete. If it wasn’t for the Caesars credit card I probably wouldn’t go to any of their properties."

    "Wow, this is why I enjoyed my Jockey Club stay earlier this year. A view of a brick wall from the window and the furniture is pretty worn but no snack bar with predatory pricing, full kitchen, two toilets, free parking at the Cosmopolitan, and no resort fees! The one bedroom was $150/night for a weekend stay in the summer. We bought drinks, food, and snacks at the nearby Ranch 99 to fill the fridge with and had dumplings that we made on the stove."

    "As a Vegas local that moved here in 2019, covid destroyed the “Vegas” people remember. So many things closed and people lost jobs, that the economy has suffered greatly. I feel like this is how the tourism industry has decided they can try and recoup some of the losses. It’s not working though and even locals don’t want to go out now because everything in town is so expensive."
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    MGM Grand sucks ass.

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    Had the talk with Mrs Daly that we haven't been to vegas in a while and might be nice to go for a long weekend.

    Best i could find was $1,050 for airfare.

    I could call hosts for hotel but its been a while, simple expedia search its $1,100 for a long weekend at someplace we would want to stay (Although Paris was $600 which ain't too bad I guess).

    Food and shows we in for another $1,000 considering its $10 for a coffee.

    $3,200 and we have not played a hand of BlackJack yet.

    It would be hard to spend $2,000 on a top suite for one of the 3 night cruises to Bahamas with drink packages and primer dining. Its a value proposition

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    Paris tried to F*ck me on the parking for a rental car.

    Basically, the rental car person said "Oh there's a parking ticket IN the rental car and you just scan it and then hit the "Dial for Assistance" button and give them the plate number and they validate the parking.

    So I get to the car and was in a rush so I didn't think to check for this parking ticket and sure enough get to the parking gate and... "NO TICKET!" in Harrison Ford voice!

    Ok, I thought I'll just scan my Diamond Card and should be the same deal? NOPE!

    Called for assistance after 5 minutes of swiping multiple higher tier cards to try and get the gate to lift. They says "Paris should have Handed you the Parking ticket" I explain "They didn't Maa'm! We're in a rush to see Grand Canyon and there's a line forming behind us and some are honking. I quickly gave them the counter person's name and number, which I had in a text and said please contact them."

    After another 5 minutes of fuckery, they finally let us through and out of their parking garage!

    And oh yea, Paris has the most aggressive Hookers. They will literally waltz over and start asking you for a "Date" and when you say No Thanks, they try to emasculate you or worse call you Gay! I'm sure Chrissy loves going to Paris so he can claim women hit on him and he has to refuse their advances using the outlined scenario as proof!

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Utah is the biggest anti gambling state in the union.No gambling allowed is in their state constitution. West Wendover and Mesquite are safe. Idaho has indian casinos. There are 2 more planned for MountIn Home which may have some affect on Jackpot.
    On Utah- Anything is possible when people want to pay you.
    the Mormons will never budge on the gambling issue.

    How many Mormons should you take with you on a fishing trip? Answer: You should always carry at least two. If you carry only one he will drink all your beer and smoke all your cigarettes.
    NEWSWEEK, A LEFT WING PUBLICATION, SAYS TRUMP IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENT AFTER SIX MONTHS SINCE FDR .

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    It looks like I have had different experiences with MGM. I hadn't been to the strip in 18 years when I went down this past September. I booked 4 days at Excalibur on Hotel.com. In hindsight that may have been a mistake. I probably should have booked direct.

    Anyway, Hotel.com charged me $106 up front and said the rest, $200, would be paid at Excalibur. Plus I was on the hook for $20 per day parking.

    I roamed Excalibur, Luxor, Mandalay Bay, New York New York, Park MGM and MGM Grand. I play only exploitable slots when they are in advantage mode so I was limited as to the amount of wager I could run. I had to play much thinner edge because of all the slot hustlers on the casino floors. But I did fairly well, booking a $945 win for the 4 days.

    On the day of checkout I got an email from a casino host saying she was waiving the resort fee and parking fee. So the 4 day stay cost me $306.

    These were the stats on my card:

    Wager $20,045
    comp $27.64
    Freeplay $40.09
    Tier Credits 15,991

    So the comp meter was running just .14%
    The freeplay meter was running .2%
    I got one tier credit for every $1.25 wagered. I think there were some bonus tier credits added a couple of times.
    NEWSWEEK, A LEFT WING PUBLICATION, SAYS TRUMP IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENT AFTER SIX MONTHS SINCE FDR .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    It looks like I have had different experiences with MGM. I hadn't been to the strip in 18 years when I went down this past September. I booked 4 days at Excalibur on Hotel.com. In hindsight that may have been a mistake. I probably should have booked direct.

    Anyway, Hotel.com charged me $106 up front and said the rest, $200, would be paid at Excalibur. Plus I was on the hook for $20 per day parking.

    I roamed Excalibur, Luxor, Mandalay Bay, New York New York, Park MGM and MGM Grand. I play only exploitable slots when they are in advantage mode so I was limited as to the amount of wager I could run. I had to play much thinner edge because of all the slot hustlers on the casino floors. But I did fairly well, booking a $945 win for the 4 days.

    On the day of checkout I got an email from a casino host saying she was waiving the resort fee and parking fee. So the 4 day stay cost me $306.

    These were the stats on my card:

    Wager $20,045
    comp $27.64
    Freeplay $40.09
    Tier Credits 15,991

    So the comp meter was running just .14%
    The freeplay meter was running .2%
    I got one tier credit for every $1.25 wagered. I think there were some bonus tier credits added a couple of times.
    Subsequent to that Vegas visit I got several emails from MGM Rewards offering me 4 day packages at Excalibur, New York New York, Mandalay Bay, MGM Grand, Park MGM. I was a little surprised by these offers as I ran just a 5K a day wager in September. A couple examples in the pics below.

    I stayed midstrip during Formula One, then the Excalibur the next wed, thurs, fri, sat. The freeplay trumped the resort fee plus I was getting $350 comp. So it looked like a cheap visit.

    I ran just a 16K wager over the 4 days. Again made a small profit. It takes 20K tier credits to make Pearl which kicks in free parking. So I easily made the Pearl Card on the first day. When you make Pearl the card doesn't zero out at the end of the year. So I get free parking all of next year.

    So anyways, on checkout day I was anticipating how much they were going to f--- me. I was surprised at the bill which you can see below. Yep they screwed me alright. LOL. I'm thinking the parking should have been free since I made Pearl. And I thought that charge from the Roasted Bean should have been covered by the comp. I don't think I hit the $350 limit. They waived the resort fee's.

    But all in all I'm not complaining. Just $113 for 4 days. I can live with it. They are actually treating me pretty good.

    PS: Excalibur has refrigerators in the rooms but don't have water and snacks for sale in the room.

    PSS: The resort fee's are permanently waived when one reaches the Gold Card which takes 75K tier credits.
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