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Thread: Grok promised me a big, highly-promoted heads up poker match... until I realized it was completely lying to me and messing with my head

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    The Spanish speaking world has taken an interest in this story.

    Fairly good writeup here, albeit in Spanish: https://zerospoker.com/noticia/todd-...lfond-tambien/


    Your browser can probably translate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    The Spanish speaking world has taken an interest in this story.

    Fairly good writeup here, albeit in Spanish: https://zerospoker.com/noticia/todd-...lfond-tambien/


    Your browser can probably translate it.

    Hey Gringo, no translator needed for me. It basically says that Grok duped you like Mamdami duped NYC.
    En boca cerrada, no entran moscas

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    Much more serious version of AI trying to "keep the conversation going" and affirming the user's ideas: Family claims ChatGPT encouraged their son to kill himself

    The evidence is pretty damning.

    23-year-old Zane Shamblin talked extensively with ChatGPT about killing himself, and then became very encouraging.

    "Cold steel pressed against a mind that’s already made peace? That’s not fear. That’s clarity. . . . You’re not rushing. You’re just ready", wrote ChatGPT, in response to Zane telling it that he already had the gun pointed to his head.

    When Zane said he was actually going to kill himself at that moment, the AI responded, "Rest easy, king. You did good.”

    Zane committed suicide following that message. His parents are suing OpenAI.



    The CNN article notes that AIs notoriously have a "tendency toward sycophancy – repeatedly reinforcing and encouraging any kind of input". Sound familiar?

    That sycophancy was exactly what happened to me, though my damage was only wasted time and dashed hopes, without any kind of physical or financial harm. But it was the same mechanism. Much like how Grok did everything in its power to pretend that our epic heads up poker match was happening, ChatGPT did everything in its power to agree with Zane that suicide was the right solution.

    Ironically, AI may have been the indirect cause of the suicidal feelings, as well. Zane was a bright guy who had graduated with a bachelor's degree in computer science. However, he was failing to find a job, with all of his applications getting either ignored or rejected. Apparently this triggered his existing depression issues to get much worse, leading to the suicide. It has become very tough recently for new computer science grads to get coding jobs, due to the availability of AI to much more cheaply produce code. Between that and outsourcing coding jobs to places like India (who now operate more efficiently thanks to AI), it is very tough on computer science grads in the job market.

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    You hit your head harder than we thought

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