Charlie Kirk shot

[BCR]

Mickey, the most gullible old man ever who posted fake shit as recently as yesterday now cares about facts.

I’m fully aware the kid was not some MAGA zealot. People like you who constantly post fake shit is why I am laughing at the right’s sudden concern about misinformation and how badly you take even the smallest dose of what you have mainstreamed around every issue for 8 years.

Everyone has watched low info low IQ losers like desert, split, and you fall for everything for years posting fake shit every week. Everyone has watched how effective it is to fool people like yourselves into regurgitating fake shit every day and your idiocy has been a roadmap on crisis management going forward.

[Orko]

This debate about whether he's left or right is a bunch oif crap.
Newsflash: Our gun laws are retarded.
Every now n then there's going to be right wing killers lerft wing killer Straight gay dem republican short tall black brown white etc etc etc
They easiest ways to cut down on shooting is for the media to not make these killers more famous than rock stars.

They should show a blurred out face and first name only for no more than the first day..

Is this propaganda campaign against the left related to this?
A must watch btw

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[mickeycrimm]

Kimmel was taken off the air, not because of government pressure, but because ABC knew they were going to lose massive advertising dollars. They had to move on it.

And Orko is right about it not mattering whether the shooter was left or right. What really matters is what leftist zealots are up too. Below is a hit list Andy Ngo took off one of the dark websites he lurks.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#in...vLXWcjlQNzKxWV

[Dan Druff]

See, I do believe this was government retaliation, and I don't like that part of it.

It's true that Kimmel's show was likely losing money, so it wasn't a huge loss for ABC to suspend it (and even get rid of it).

However, this was definitely done because the companies involved (ABC and the affiliate-owner Nexstar) were scared of the FCC bringing consequences upon them both presently and down the road. The last thing they wanted was to stir up the hornet's nest with regulators, so it was easier just to bend the knee and suspend Kimmel.

This sets a bad precedent, because we really don't want the government (of either party) directly or indirectly threatening consequences for speech they don't like. That's part of the reason Twitter and Facebook were so censorious of posts regarding COVID or Hunter Biden's laptop. That was awful, and this isn't good either.

ABC definitely has a right to suspend Kimmel if they don't like what he's saying on their platform, and had they done this on their own, I'd have no objection.

Kimmel did blatantly lie. He did knowingly spread misinformation about the Kirk shooter. If ABC simply said, "No, you're not using our platform to do that shit", and suspended him, it would have been 100% justified.

I just don't like how it went down. The suspension happened due to government pressure, and we should never want that.

[splitthis]

Network used this incident to hopefully save face in eyes of conservatives. Truth is he was gonna go anyways because ratings are shit.

[mickeycrimm]

See, I do believe this was government retaliation, and I don't like that part of it.

It's true that Kimmel's show was likely losing money, so it wasn't a huge loss for ABC to suspend it (and even get rid of it).

However, this was definitely done because the companies involved (ABC and the affiliate-owner Nexstar) were scared of the FCC bringing consequences upon them both presently and down the road. The last thing they wanted was to stir up the hornet's nest with regulators, so it was easier just to bend the knee and suspend Kimmel.

This sets a bad precedent, because we really don't want the government (of either party) directly or indirectly threatening consequences for speech they don't like. That's part of the reason Twitter and Facebook were so censorious of posts regarding COVID or Hunter Biden's laptop. That was awful, and this isn't good either.

ABC definitely has a right to suspend Kimmel if they don't like what he's saying on their platform, and had they done this on their own, I'd have no objection.

Kimmel did blatantly lie. He did knowingly spread misinformation about the Kirk shooter. If ABC simply said, "No, you're not using our platform to do that shit", and suspended him, it would have been 100% justified.

I just don't like how it went down. The suspension happened due to government pressure, and we should never want that.

Advertising dollars were still a part of it. Not just for Kimmel’s show but every other show.

[1dollarboxcar]

This debate about whether he's left or right is a bunch oif crap.
Newsflash: Our gun laws are retarded.
Every now n then there's going to be right wing killers lerft wing killer Straight gay dem republican short tall black brown white etc etc etc
They easiest ways to cut down on shooting is for the media to not make these killers more famous than rock stars.

They should show a blurred out face and first name only for no more than the first day..

Is this propaganda campaign against the left related to this?
A must watch btw

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yep and here's the thing, let's switch the name of the country, instead of Israel doing all this "anti-propaganda" bs... what if it was say China or Russia pushing this bs on their own behalf instead of Israel...what would the big wigs be saying then?? how people can't see through this bs is beyond me... unless you're jewish or just have the jewish blinders on (because of the jew money) of course i guess... but maybe people are actually waking up, other wise why would the US go to such extreme measures to try and counter the questions people are asking about Isreali influence here on our homeland... why can't you say or question that Israel is committing a genocide when it is clear as day..??
like what other smart people have stated... " if you want to know who is really in charge, look at who you can't speak against, watch the backlash you get" ... it's absolutely disgusting...

[nightmarefish]

This shows you how misinformation is working.

Three was a poll done of Americans regarding Tyler Robinson. It was done September 14, long after it was made clear he had become left wing in recent years, and a day after the news broke about the trans boyfriend.

Despite that, here were the numbers regarding beliefs about Tyler's political affiliation:
24% He's a Republican
21% He's a Democrat
15% He's neither
40% Not sure

Amazing that more people thought he was a Republican as recently as September 14, and that only 1/5 of the people polled had the correct answer (that his ideology most matched that of Democrats).

Of Democrats polled, 41% said he was a Republican, and only 8% said he was a Democrat!

Here's the full poll results: https://today.yougov.com/topics/inte.../09/15/d30fd/2

My Facebook feed is full of arrogant lefties proclaiming that Tyler was "MAGA", and laughing at the stupid right wingers who believe "MAGA misinformation" that he was actually on the left. Amazing.



I would have preferred if they phrased it "right wing" and "left wing" instead of "Republican" and "Democrat" (because one's party registration doesn't always match their ideology), but whatever... close enough.

Reminds me of this poll from late 2020, which also indicated the level of mainstream misinformation being pushed:



The correct answer was 1%.

[Dan Druff]

Lefties on social media are so tilting.

If they said, "People lie on TV all the time, so what Jimmy Kimmel did wasn't a big deal, and the FCC shouldn't have pressed to get him suspended", that would be completely reasonable.

If they said, "Yeah, Jimmy lied, but so does Trump all the time, so it's hypocritical for him to send the FCC to get Jimmy fired for doing the same thing", that would also be completely reasonable.

Instead, we are getting either "Jimmy got suspended by Trump's fascist FCC for telling jokes" or "Jimmy was telling the complete truth, Trump couldn't handle it, and he had him suspended", or "Jimmy is being taken out of context, and didn't mean the shooter was right wing. That's the dishonest spin from MAGA."


I can find almost zero left-leaning people on social media who will admit that Jimmy Kimmel intentionally lied/misled about the shooter's political beliefs. They simply can't accept that longtime whiny lefty Kimmel, who has cried about Trump on his show for the past decade, would possibly consider telling a lie in order to make Trump/MAGA look bad.

It was just out of context, you see. We still don't know the shooter's ideology or reasons for doing this, you see. He was just telling jokes, you see.

Outrageous.


Oh, and then when I present them with the mountain of evidence that this kid wasn't right wing and in fact hated conservatives, they go into conspiratorial mode:

- The kid's mom is lying because she's MAGA

- The electrician boss is lying because... well, he just is, even though he isn't even political

- Law enforcement is lying because they're in Utah and that's a red state

- The FBI is lying because they work for Trump now

- The texts where he said he killed Charlie for being hateful are fabricated by law enforcement, and never happened

- This whole thing is a pre-planned conspiracy so Trump can seize dictatorial power and destroy adversaries



I used to think the conspiritards were on the right. Now the left has joined them. Rather than simply believing that this was a gay kid who pushed away from his family's conservatism, moved in with his furry trans boyfriend, and came to despise anyone who was the embodiment of the conservatism he grew to resent, we're supposed to believe he was a MAGA groyper who killed Charlie for not being extreme enough. You know... a groyper in the furry community with a trans boyfriend. And somehow everyone who knew him is in on the coverup.

People are seriously trying to argue this.

[Dan Druff]

I see Orko is back to ranting about Israel even though he already conceded Israel had nothing to do with this.

He just can't get his mind off the Jews.