Charlie Kirk shot

[sonatine]

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case closed boys pack it in.

[desertrunner]

Nailed it...

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[BCR]

I just think many of you don't understand this.

If I hired a team of just 200 people to canvas urban neighborhoods across these three swing states proportionally - first to get as many registered voters as possible to request a ballot, Arizona sent them to every registered voter, at a goal of just 10 a day, in 60 days if that goal is met my team would now know exactly when these 120,000 people would be receiving their ballots. Over the next 60 days, if my team convinced just 5 of these people a day (or just bribed them and/or filled them out and mailed them back themselves) I'd have created 60,000 votes. Now realize they were doing this across every swing state with thousands of people, all in Democrat ran cities. This is not a conspiracy, it actually happened.


I don't want to derail this thread with 2020 nonsense, but to say that election was rigged is not a stretch by any means.

Oh I understand it. You rewrote 2000 mules into 200 mules. But that ended thoroughly debunked and with him publicly apologizing and dishing out millions for shit he imagined, ended up being wrong about, much like you’re doing.

I can imagine a hundred devious things that happened in 2016, or I can tip my cap at Cambridge Analytica and say they played the game under the rules of the time and won.

Whine for a few weeks or a month, but insurrection around a lie and still repeating the shit 4 years later, insanity. It’s why people have came to just realize there is no value in telling the truth.

You had the presidency, all 3 of those states legislatures. Two had Republican governors and AGs. It was a weird time, but they lost under the rules. Losing by the rules is one thing. You have to prove fraud. They failed miserably when they tried because it wasn’t there.

And this is why truth has no place anymore. You try to put some academic spin on their idiocy and fail as badly as they did. You can imagine a lot of things. Prove it. If you can you should have filed a suit or quit playing what if games.

[BCR]

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case closed boys pack it in.

Imagine being dragged to church or Mormon temple being Utah, taught to wear your golden underwear and practice chastity and keep your hands off the girls and to have values, then having your role models turn around and tell you out of the same mouth they preached all that shit to you that the pussy grabber in chief who was best buddies with Epstein is now the ordained savior of America during your most formative teenage years. No shocker he ended up with a dick in his mouth and an assault rifle. Shocker that more haven’t. Yet.

[country978]

That kid is very young and will be living the hardest life there is for the rest of his days. He'll be in jail long after I'm gone and by the time he dies 60 or 70 years from now nobody will even remember him. That's good enough for me. Time to move on.

I thought everyone had moved on from 2020 by now as well. All I can say about that is that its not true that everyone who voted for Trump in '24 thinks 2020 election was stolen or is even dwelling on that for one second. It was so many problems ago by now. Its also not true that all the children of Trump voters are not doing well in handling life.

I wish I could say I was surprised by all the inflammatory things that have been said from all sides but I'm not because people just don't seem to value grace any longer. I hope anyone reading stays safe and enjoys their remaining time on earth. Its not a good thing to stay angry about anything.

[VaughnP]

I just think many of you don't understand this.

If I hired a team of just 200 people to canvas urban neighborhoods across these three swing states proportionally - first to get as many registered voters as possible to request a ballot, Arizona sent them to every registered voter, at a goal of just 10 a day, in 60 days if that goal is met my team would now know exactly when these 120,000 people would be receiving their ballots. Over the next 60 days, if my team convinced just 5 of these people a day (or just bribed them and/or filled them out and mailed them back themselves) I'd have created 60,000 votes. Now realize they were doing this across every swing state with thousands of people, all in Democrat ran cities. This is not a conspiracy, it actually happened.


I don't want to derail this thread with 2020 nonsense, but to say that election was rigged is not a stretch by any means.

Oh I understand it. You rewrote 2000 mules into 200 mules. But that ended thoroughly debunked and with him publicly apologizing and dishing out millions for shit he imagined, ended up being wrong about, much like you’re doing.

I can imagine a hundred devious things that happened in 2016, or I can tip my cap at Cambridge Analytica and say they played the game under the rules of the time and won.

Whine for a few weeks or a month, but insurrection around a lie and still repeating the shit 4 years later, insanity. It’s why people have came to just realize there is no value in telling the truth.

You had the presidency, all 3 of those states legislatures. Two had Republican governors and AGs. It was a weird time, but they lost under the rules. Losing by the rules is one thing. You have to prove fraud. They failed miserably when they tried because it wasn’t there.

And this is why truth has no place anymore. You try to put some academic spin on their idiocy and fail as badly as they did. You can imagine a lot of things. Prove it. If you can you should have filed a suit or quit playing what if games.

I didn't really read past the first paragraph. I haven't watched whatever that is and have no real idea of what it's about, only remember that it was made by the Indian guy who very likely was the victim of selective, politically-influenced prosecution in the past.

Let's not conflate whatever allegations of rigged voting machines and completely falsified ballots there were with the legal gray areas of what actually was the Democrat ground game strategy inside Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Detroit etc. They could do everything I mentioned in every state legally but offer any kind of bribe and collect the completed ballots and dump them themselves at a separate location - which did happen but is next to impossible to prove.


It's the reason why people like Elon have publicly decried mail in voting at every opportunity, it's a joke and way too easy to take advantage of. The only counter is to try and do the same type of cheating, but it's impossibly one sided given how overwhelmingly blue major cities are - for more reasons than just the voters. Any election in the United States with widespread mail in voting is not going to be won on the merits, it's going to be won on who can essentially cheat the hardest. Every ballot regardless of who was voted for is questionable.

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[VaughnP]

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The texts were in the charging documents.


The "mostly peaceful" violent, graphic, display of murder from a hundred angles to billions of people around the world.

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https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1968045665541365867

The "very touching" confession of violent murder.


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Jesus.

[sonatine]

So looks like I was right about this OwO thing.

I won't claim to know all the trends of the young people online nowadays, but that one stuck out to me because of the correlation I always noticed to trans every time I saw OwO/UwU.

I also felt like there was some piece missing as to why the guy hated Kirk so much. Kirk was vocal that he didn't believe trans was a real thing -- that everyone should address their mental issues and stay the gender they were born. Many trans hate him because they believed he was calling for their "erasure". When they arrested him and he was just a dude, I briefly thought I was wrong about it, but now it all makes sense. Tyler wasn't trans. His boyfriend was.

you were 100% right. mea culpa.

aaaaand the pendulum swings again, looks like i was right. not that it matters.

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[sonatine]

[Dan Druff]

you were 100% right. mea culpa.

aaaaand the pendulum swings again, looks like i was right. not that it matters.

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While I'm glad you gave the mea culpa earier, the above texts change nothing (except raise questions as to why the roommate stayed quiet until Tyler was already arrested).

The texts above further confirm my theories about the shooter -- that he was obsessed with trans ideology to the point that he felt he had to murder Kirk for being on the opposite side of the issue. He admits this by texting, "I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out."

It's not like the texts said something like, "lol these idiots on Fox are gonna believe I'm left wing because I wrote 'OwO notices bulge'. wait til they research me and see I am farther to the right than they are!'"

His texts about the memes and OwO simply explained that he inscribed his favorite memes onto the guns and bullets, and that the messages themselves had no real meaning. That part I believe. However, the fact that he thought about using 'OwO notices bulge' in the first place (a phrase neither you nor I would ever think of using if trying to troll police/media) showed that he was at least adjacent to the trans/furry community, which indeed he actually was.

[VaughnP]

(Sonatine)

Of course the engravings are a meme and he did it to troll. It would be one thing if a modern Timothy McVeigh type engraved "Notices Bulge, OwO" on bullets used to murder, but you're reading the conversation, allegedly not staged, between a demented tranny blower and his tranny lover. The engravings are enforcing his ideologies.

Excuse me if I'm misinterpreting the point you are dunking on, I haven't really read this thread, but overall it applies regardless.

[VaughnP]

Druff and I typed out the same point I guess simultaneously.

Hard not to reach this conclusion as well:

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[Dan Druff]

I’m seeing a lot of people sharing this Ken Klippenstein article, which they claim “disproves” that Tyler Robinson was of the left.

The article feigns neutrality, but when you look at it more closely, the arguments fall apart.

Klippenstein tried to point out that Tyler barely commented on the Trump/Biden election, and his few comments were simply on how it was likely to end up. That part is true, but it’s also irrelevant, as this was from 2020, long before family and friends claim Tyler’s ideology became left and radicalized. So why show this as “evidence” he was apolitical?

Klippenstein oddly quotes a “friend” of Tyler’s stating that Tyler was for gay/trans rights, but “obviously supported the second amendment.” Huh?? That could be said about any left winger who committed a crime with a gun, including far-left Congressional baseball shooter James Hodgkinson.

A left winger who likes guns isn’t someone who has indescribable political ideology. He’s simply a left winger who likes guns.

Some of the article is spent showing that Tyler’s Discord friends were shocked and not accomplices. That might or might not be true, but none of that changes Tyler’s obvious radical left ideology at the time of the shooting.

In texts with his roommate/boyfriend, Tyler very clearly laid out the reason he did it. He wrote, “I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out.”

That pretty much confirms Tyler’s ideology. He felt that Charlie’s right wing positions were “hateful” to the point where he should be killed. How is that indicative of anything but a left winger?

Combine that with the fact that Tyler had a trans boyfriend and hid this from his family, and it’s not too difficult to connect the dots.

Tyler was a gay young man who broke away from his family’s conservative politics in the last few years, moved in with his boyfriend, and became increasingly angry and radicalized regarding his new left wing beliefs. This led him to kill a prominent conservative figure, whom he felt was the embodiment of these views he hated.

Rather than admit Tyler was left but deranged, and distancing themselves from people like him, I’m still seeing a dishonest but concerted attempt to portray Tyler as either extreme right wing or apolitical.

Shameful.

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/ex...s-from-charlie

[Orko]

It'd be interesting to see what these killers say after about 24 hours of jail with a lifetime still to go. I bet this dude would do anything just to be at home browsing reddit again.


This case is so bizarre i'm assuming this kid was taking psych meds. Many people claim they were having crazy ideas while on them.
SSRI's or whatever w/o a doubt cause many mass shootings and suicides.

Allowing our politicians to be legally bribed will eventually destroy this country, for sure.

[zealanddonk]

That kid is very young and will be living the hardest life there is for the rest of his days. He'll be in jail long after I'm gone

Yeah, about that:

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c04qenww53pt

"Prosecutors seek Death Penalty"

[zealanddonk]

Tyler was a gay young man

Do you consider Nick Fuentes to be right wing?

[BCR]

Maybe they’ll find some manifesto where he rails on multiple issues and sounds like Che Guevara, but I also think it’s entirely possible he was just some nerd who fell in love with a dickgirl and is kind of a single issue left kid at this point.


He dropped out of school after one semester which probably means he made it a few weeks and checked out. He didn’t leave home some conservative and get brainwashed by the super liberal Utah college system in a month or two.

I don’t see anything to suggest he’s a wide ranging ideologue. I think it’s possible he just fell for a trans and Kirk bashed trans and he killed him in some idiotic way he thought would impress her. I think it’s possible he’s still just some conservative nerd if he didn’t full in love with a dickgirl.

And then to show she’s more like a girl at this point than a guy, she promptly throws him under the bus. That’s a true cold bitch move.

[Orko]

Keep this in mind.
With the proliferation of Pegasus software, it's a 100% guarantee Israel knew about these messages almost in real time..

Netanyahu used Boris Johnson's bathroom and supposedly
personally planted a bug.

[Orko]

One for the ages? I'll def check it out later. I hope it's the right one.



It's pretty crazy, we know some white kid fr Utah likely killed Kirk but everyone's like fuck it lets pretend Israel did it anyways. Nice..
That's what happens when a country goes rougue and has no accountability for decades.