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    RIP JD Vance

    I just finished listening to a 4 hour podcast series on JD Vance. Political/psychological profiling . It was on The Rest Is Politics podcast.

    The Rest is Politics format is your usual right vs left podcasting duo. They are both British. I got by without closed captioning. One of the hosts is a Yale professor and Vance is famously a Yalie.

    The Vance poverty and abuse origin story. Slut mother. His coping mechanisms. He is famously “the chameleon”. His gifted intelligence

    I thoroughly enjoyed nearly every minute. Better than a movie.

    I’ve been knee deep in the Thiel/Vance story for some time now. Palantir is obviously a tattoo idea. This shit and these characters are so crazy they read like fiction but here we are.

    Only 2 years in politics and he finds himself installed as Vice President and now the presumed GOP candidate. Time to learn the players

    RIP asks that you become a subscriber to listen to the Vance pod $5.99£. However you get a free 7 days and they only charge after the 7 day period.

    I’ll likely listen multiple times. So much fun.

    EoT ™

     
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    ask your kids if they would trust someone who was subjected to jd vance's history and report back.

    i have a thesis im working regarding emotional intelligence / risk aversion and younger vs older generations.

    like ask your daughter if she was sitting across from someone on a first date and found out that was their backstory. whats her play there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    ask your kids if they would trust someone who was subjected to jd vance's history and report back.

    i have a thesis im working regarding emotional intelligence / risk aversion and younger vs older generations.

    like ask your daughter if she was sitting across from someone on a first date and found out that was their backstory. whats her play there.
    She might work for him.

     
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    You have to feel pity for what Vance endured as a child. I respect that he made it out of the hood as well. That said…

    Vance had at least 3 father figures that drifted in and out of his childhood. Then there was his fabulously odd grandmother. Each were vastly different personalities. Vance describes how he could easily assume a persona that would please the authority figure of the moment.

    “How do you go from calling Trump “America’s Hitler” to becoming his closest ally? Why did JD Vance abandon the thoughtful, Christian conservative image that made him famous”.

    Being a chameleon has been his super power.

    How far will he go in pursuit of unfettered power? Remember Trump, Thiel and Yarvin are not particular fans of democracy. Democracy gets in the way of freedom. We are talking about real power previously only possessed by FDR. (FDR being their model & super hero, of course)

    Back to your question. If Vance recounted his backstory complete with his admission he adopted multiple personalities during his formative years (out of the need for survival)…. Well, you run. The daughter would have absolutely no idea who the man sitting across from her truly is. Because he was always morphing you could never pin him down.

    His intellect allows him to sell nearly any idea. The next day he will contradict himself in equally well read and brilliant fashion, if it suits the moment.

    Chameleon. Thiel is similar in many ways. You can never pin down what he truly believes vs the contradictions he sells from podcast to podcast.

    They make a lovely couple

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    You have to feel pity for what Vance endured as a child. I respect that he made it out of the hood as well. That said…

    Vance had at least 3 father figures that drifted in and out of his childhood. Then there was his fabulously odd grandmother. Each were vastly different personalities. Vance describes how he could easily assume a persona that would please the authority figure of the moment.

    “How do you go from calling Trump “America’s Hitler” to becoming his closest ally? Why did JD Vance abandon the thoughtful, Christian conservative image that made him famous”.

    Being a chameleon has been his super power.

    How far will he go in pursuit of unfettered power? Remember Trump, Thiel and Yarvin are not particular fans of democracy. Democracy gets in the way of freedom. We are talking about real power previously only possessed by FDR. (FDR being their model & super hero, of course)

    Back to your question. If Vance recounted his backstory complete with his admission he adopted multiple personalities during his formative years (out of the need for survival)…. Well, you run. The daughter would have absolutely no idea who the man sitting across from her truly is. Because he was always morphing you could never pin him down.

    His intellect allows him to sell nearly any idea. The next day he will contradict himself in equally well read and brilliant fashion, if it suits the moment.

    Chameleon. Thiel is similar in many ways. You can never pin down what he truly believes vs the contradictions he sells from podcast to podcast.

    They make a lovely couple


    i mean, look.. youre spending a lot of time and effort tap dancing around DSM personality disorders. and conflating intellect with cunning, which is part of that. and what i see a lot of people who stop short of using those labels doing, is admiring him for some perceived 'eye of the tiger' style capability to 'do what ever he has to' without taking the final steps and closing the loop and saying 'because hes a sociopath'.
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    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    and dont get me wrong, j'adore, this isnt a personal attack and its not just you but its literally how we ended up with a game show pedophile issuing tariffs via tweets.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    and dont get me wrong, j'adore, this isnt a personal attack and its not just you but its literally how we ended up with a game show pedophile issuing tariffs via tweets.
    The summation of the year award goes to........
    "game show pedophile" to replace TACO

    If Trump strokes out and nose dives off an Air-force One staircase the world will be better off. If Gerald Ford can manage it I expect J.D.Vance may also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    and dont get me wrong, j'adore, this isnt a personal attack and its not just you but its literally how we ended up with a game show pedophile issuing tariffs via tweets.
    To simply label Vance as a sociopath would short circuit the fantastical story of how a nobody was discovered in Schwab's Pharmacy and installed as Vice President of the United States…. and why.

    I’m in it for the lulz. Every last detail is absurd, surreal and entertaining. I can barely accept the fact this all actually happened. Vance is the presumed GOP nominee. He is one bullet or thrombosis away from being the leader of the free world.

    Being void of optimism is liberating and increases one’s enjoyment of life’s parade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    and dont get me wrong, j'adore, this isnt a personal attack and its not just you but its literally how we ended up with a game show pedophile issuing tariffs via tweets.
    To simply label Vance as a sociopath would short circuit the fantastical story of how a nobody was discovered in Schwab's Pharmacy and installed as Vice President of the United States…. and why.

    I’m in it for the lulz. Every last detail is absurd, surreal and entertaining. I can barely accept the fact this all actually happened. Vance is the presumed GOP nominee. He is one bullet or thrombosis away from being the leader of the free world.

    Being void of optimism is liberating and increases one’s enjoyment of life’s parade

    yeah but he didnt work his way into the white house, its not some amazing power play / american dream. trump had no idea who he was; his half wit sons literally insisted trump put vance on the ticket. they called him 'our guy' because they used to DM each other shitty memes on twitter.
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    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    To simply label Vance as a sociopath would short circuit the fantastical story of how a nobody was discovered in Schwab's Pharmacy and installed as Vice President of the United States…. and why.

    I’m in it for the lulz. Every last detail is absurd, surreal and entertaining. I can barely accept the fact this all actually happened. Vance is the presumed GOP nominee. He is one bullet or thrombosis away from being the leader of the free world.

    Being void of optimism is liberating and increases one’s enjoyment of life’s parade

    yeah but he didnt work his way into the white house, its not some amazing power play / american dream.
    You are projected some kind of Vance worship on me and not reading my words.

    CORRECT. This isn’t some political Horatio Alger story.

    He was installed as VP 2 of 3 years into his political career which itself was arranged by Thiel. He’s done nothing. Nothing at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
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    yeah but he didnt work his way into the white house, its not some amazing power play / american dream.
    You are projected some kind of Vance worship on me and not reading my words.

    CORRECT. This isn’t some political Horatio Alger story.

    He was installed as VP 2 of 3 years into his political career which itself was arranged by Thiel. He’s done nothing. Nothing at all.

    im so sorry, youre right. mea culpa. the effort it takes to ignore what this site has turned into has 100% impacted my ability to like, read.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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