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    this is the end result of allowing anyone with a pulse the opportunity to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    this is the end result of allowing anyone with a pulse the opportunity to vote.
    This. It isn’t “the mayor” or “city council” that is the downfall. The stories and editorials get this all backwards.

    People want this and one is left to ask why. At least one SHOULD ask why. Its harder and less entertaining

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Isn't he the guy who wants do defund police and put homeless people in the subway. need more police not to defund them and substitute them for social workers

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO View Post
    Isn't he the guy who wants do defund police and put homeless people in the subway. need more police not to defund them and substitute them for social workers
    https://www.zohranfornyc.com/platform


    plenty to raise eyebrows at on that list but i dont see anything about defunding police or homeless people in subways.

    that said hoo nelly do i not care so i didnt spend much time looking.

    cuomo winning as an independent seems perfectly reasonable once they end up in an actual debate.

    the field is just total garbage in any case; https://www.cityandstateny.com/polit...r-2025/401994/
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    like at face value these seem sane and reasonable but i just dont know enough about how politics works to understand who might be able to keep this from being instated.

    Zohran has a plan to bring down the cost-of-living through city-owned grocery stores, universal childcare, and other bold proposals, and he knows exactly how to pay for it, too. Zohran’s revenue plan will raise the corporate tax rate to match New Jersey’s 11.5%, bringing in $5 billion. And he will tax the wealthiest 1% of New Yorkers—those earning above $1 million annually—a flat 2% tax (right now city income tax rates are essentially the same whether you make $50,000 or $50 million). Zohran will also implement common-sense procurement reform, end senseless no-bid contracts, hire more tax auditors, and crack down on fine collection from corrupt landlords to raise an additional $1 billion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    adams calling him a snake oil salesman is probably a 100% valid criticism.

    tbh i dont really understand these numbers;



    id have bet for cuomo to win handily but clearly i underestimated how tarnished his brand was.
    I wish I bet on it. I thought Mamdami was going to win. Cuomo was completely trashed by the media and Dems once he was no longer useful, post-2020 election. He went from exalted hero to liability, due to the nursing home fiasco. They successfully kept the nursing home thing muted and relegated to right wing media during the 2020 election (a huge mistake by the GOP not to push harder, btw), but they knew it was going to eventually come back and bite them. So once Biden won, they exaggerated his sexual harassment follies (which were, at worst, minor), suddenly acknowledged the nursing home COVID shit, and threw him away.

    Expecting him to resurrect in 2025 was bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    like at face value these seem sane and reasonable but i just dont know enough about how politics works to understand who might be able to keep this from being instated.

    Zohran has a plan to bring down the cost-of-living through city-owned grocery stores, universal childcare, and other bold proposals, and he knows exactly how to pay for it, too. Zohran’s revenue plan will raise the corporate tax rate to match New Jersey’s 11.5%, bringing in $5 billion. And he will tax the wealthiest 1% of New Yorkers—those earning above $1 million annually—a flat 2% tax (right now city income tax rates are essentially the same whether you make $50,000 or $50 million). Zohran will also implement common-sense procurement reform, end senseless no-bid contracts, hire more tax auditors, and crack down on fine collection from corrupt landlords to raise an additional $1 billion.

    Hey Gringo, you definitely failed Economics 101.

    1) City owned grocery stores will not save people money and will actually cost $$$$$$ for the city to run. The quality will be poorer and the service even worse.

    2) New York business owners will relocate to Palm Beach and face Zero state income tax. They will also relocate their businesses and employees to Florida. The net result will be a net loss of tax revenue for the city and state.


    The net result will be mom and pop bodegas losing $$$ and closing, and the city and state will lose even more tax revenue. Also with he exodus of the wealthy and their respective businesses, restaurants and shops will lose revenue and close, causing even more tax revenue losses for the city and state.


    Just look at every other jurisdiction that raised taxes without thinking about the consequences. The net result was net loss of tax revenue.

    And with the defunding of police this Marxist champions, the exodus will continue. And people like me with second homes in the city will rethink things.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    adams calling him a snake oil salesman is probably a 100% valid criticism.

    tbh i dont really understand these numbers;



    id have bet for cuomo to win handily but clearly i underestimated how tarnished his brand was.
    I wish I bet on it. I thought Mamdami was going to win. Cuomo was completely trashed by the media and Dems once he was no longer useful, post-2020 election. He went from exalted hero to liability, due to the nursing home fiasco. They successfully kept the nursing home thing muted and relegated to right wing media during the 2020 election (a huge mistake by the GOP not to push harder, btw), but they knew it was going to eventually come back and bite them. So once Biden won, they exaggerated his sexual harassment follies (which were, at worst, minor), suddenly acknowledged the nursing home COVID shit, and threw him away.

    Expecting him to resurrect in 2025 was bizarre.

    boots on the ground report here; no one gives a shit about the nursing home fiasco and most people accept that its 90% right wing hysteria bait.


    it was the sex pest stuff that did him in.
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    my nigga dot mother fuckin gif
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    This nigga is the towelhead Obama.

    Keep doing this shit democrats love it.
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    He ain’t going to be mayor. The Jews will put a stop to it. It called Hymietown for a reason.

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    you know this guy is radical and really fucked up when even the Dems here have nothing good to say about him....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjami View Post
    He ain’t going to be mayor. The Jews will put a stop to it. It called Hymietown for a reason.
    Apparently plenty of Jews voted for him. Adams is the only hope, and honestly that looks like a good bet currently on polymarket. But I don't think it's reasonable to count out the guy that just won what would otherwise be the defacto election. There's always the possibility of something horrible being uncovered in further opposition research, but if not, he has already walked through everything they can throw at him - think B-Rabbit in 8 mile.

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    Great post from one of the Winklevoss twins, of all people...

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    "A lot of people have asked me if I will get involved in the NYC mayor race by supporting a candidate that can defeat Zohran Mamdani. TBH, I’m torn and undecided. Like every other city run by democrats, NYC is a broken kleptocracy. Taxes are astronomical and services are pathetic to nonexistent. Anarchy and socialism are the next logical steps in this story arc. It's what the people of NYC have been asking for for years and it looks like it's what they are about to get. Trying to fight against this tide seems like throwing good money after bad.

    It appears things will have to get worse in NYC before they get better. The Zoomers and Millennials need a refresher on the outcome of Marxism and socialism. They are too young to remember the crack and crime epidemic and murder sprees of the late 80's and early 90's. The squeegee men, graffiti, mugging, lawlessness, chaos, and pandemonium. Streets that were too unsafe to walk alone at night or even during the day. Getting mugged on the way to and from school was not just a rite of passage, it was an inevitability.

    The Wall Streeters, financiers, and hedge funders have been too busy working on their fishponds and climbing the rungs of polite society to remember to protect the system that allowed them to achieve their success in the first place and allowed New York City to once become the greatest city in the world. Not ruffling feathers was more important than questioning the ideological insanity being taught in the private schools and universities that they sent their kids to. All that mattered was fitting in and getting invited to the right dinner parties.

    Now their kids are indoctrinated NPCs, always protesting and supporting the current thing. Like their parents, they too want to fit in. To do so, they unironically exchange bromides and platitudes on the benefits of socialism over rosé brunches in the West Village. Because their friends hate America and capitalism, they do too. It never dawns on them that their lifestyle and studio apartment that their parents subsidize are all made possible because of capitalism.

    This delusional thinking was ingrained in them at an early age by institutions that were captured by insane ideology and left unchecked by their grossly negligent parents. Instead of providing their children with immunity from stupid and provably bad ideas that have only led to misery and death throughout history, these parents shrugged it off as kids will be kids.

    Now these kids are adults who can vote, but are totally unequipped to do so. In many ways it’s not their fault. From their parents, they learned some combination of magical thinking, preference falsification, and an inability to stand up for anything greater than themselves. As a result, they never learned how to think critically or independently. They never learned the value of Western civilization so they don't understand why, or know how, to fight for it.

    Sometimes the only way to learn something is to learn it the hard way. Sometimes the only way to learn the value of what you have is to lose it. If that’s the case, Marxism and socialism might just be what the doctor ordered."

    https://twitter.com/tyler/status/1938056035698381001

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    Two days ago there was a massive terror attack on a church in Syria.
    In Ukraine you guys know what's happening to christians there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Great post from one of the Winklevoss twins, of all people...

    ========

    "A lot of people have asked me if I will get involved in the NYC mayor race by supporting a candidate that can defeat Zohran Mamdani. TBH, I’m torn and undecided. Like every other city run by democrats, NYC is a broken kleptocracy. Taxes are astronomical and services are pathetic to nonexistent. Anarchy and socialism are the next logical steps in this story arc. It's what the people of NYC have been asking for for years and it looks like it's what they are about to get. Trying to fight against this tide seems like throwing good money after bad.

    It appears things will have to get worse in NYC before they get better. The Zoomers and Millennials need a refresher on the outcome of Marxism and socialism. They are too young to remember the crack and crime epidemic and murder sprees of the late 80's and early 90's. The squeegee men, graffiti, mugging, lawlessness, chaos, and pandemonium. Streets that were too unsafe to walk alone at night or even during the day. Getting mugged on the way to and from school was not just a rite of passage, it was an inevitability.

    The Wall Streeters, financiers, and hedge funders have been too busy working on their fishponds and climbing the rungs of polite society to remember to protect the system that allowed them to achieve their success in the first place and allowed New York City to once become the greatest city in the world. Not ruffling feathers was more important than questioning the ideological insanity being taught in the private schools and universities that they sent their kids to. All that mattered was fitting in and getting invited to the right dinner parties.

    Now their kids are indoctrinated NPCs, always protesting and supporting the current thing. Like their parents, they too want to fit in. To do so, they unironically exchange bromides and platitudes on the benefits of socialism over rosé brunches in the West Village. Because their friends hate America and capitalism, they do too. It never dawns on them that their lifestyle and studio apartment that their parents subsidize are all made possible because of capitalism.

    This delusional thinking was ingrained in them at an early age by institutions that were captured by insane ideology and left unchecked by their grossly negligent parents. Instead of providing their children with immunity from stupid and provably bad ideas that have only led to misery and death throughout history, these parents shrugged it off as kids will be kids.

    Now these kids are adults who can vote, but are totally unequipped to do so. In many ways it’s not their fault. From their parents, they learned some combination of magical thinking, preference falsification, and an inability to stand up for anything greater than themselves. As a result, they never learned how to think critically or independently. They never learned the value of Western civilization so they don't understand why, or know how, to fight for it.

    Sometimes the only way to learn something is to learn it the hard way. Sometimes the only way to learn the value of what you have is to lose it. If that’s the case, Marxism and socialism might just be what the doctor ordered."

    https://twitter.com/tyler/status/1938056035698381001


    It’s not that I disagree with him, but for all the talk about the broken blue cities, they still pay for all the poor red states. From SF to NYC to Chicago, they pay for the rest of the country. They are givers and those great red states are welfare queens. Those twins live in NYC and LA, and I doubt they are moving to Tulsa Oklahoma soon.

    It is true, but it’s basically whining if you don’t move or get involved and back someone else.



    He had shitty opponents and tbh, those way left liberals in the cities and kids who can afford to live there with good educations from private schools hate Israel so much right now that I thought he’d win too. If only out of spite. Which is kind of a move you see out of GOP voters normally. Voting against their own interest.

    If I was running against him, that’s how I’d frame it. You can be as dumb as a GOP voter and vote against what’s best for you or vote for x

     
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