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    If you want to visit NYC, go soon (Zohran Mamdani wins Dem primary)

    It’ll be some combination of Portland/SF/LA a year from now.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/cuomos-po...090813672.html

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    im assuming you havent visited sf lately, apologies if im wrong somehow.


    also nyc will never have the sort of homeless situation you see in those western states because the winter kills the homeless who dont flee it. this city just isnt wired for homeless people / tent cities / fent zombies in numbers.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    Its going to be really bad.

     
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    Just imagine how much worse it's going to be when enough of the sane liberal generation dies off for the nose ring, pink haired, transgender crowd and their third world, communist imports to become the super majority of the Democrat party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    Just imagine how much worse it's going to be when enough of the sane liberal generation dies off for the nose ring, pink haired, transgender crowd and their third world, communist imports to become the super majority of the Democrat party.

    we have a thread for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by go_buccos View Post
    It’ll be some combination of Portland/SF/LA a year from
    Does AI write Yahoo’s articles now?

    Portland/SF/LA will never lose their crown.

    Sonatine makes an excellent observation about drug use, homelessness and the weather - it can be likened to the pest problem found in the southwest too. Winter kill solves these problems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by go_buccos View Post
    It’ll be some combination of Portland/SF/LA a year from
    Does AI write Yahoo’s articles now?

    Portland/SF/LA will never lose their crown.

    Sonatine makes an excellent observation about drug use, homelessness and the weather - it can be likened to the pest problem found in the southwest. Winter kill solves these problems
    While yours and Sonatine’s points are valid, they willfully ignore the multitudes of other problems that come with far left leadership in cities that have winters orders of magnitude harsher than NYC. (Read: Minneapolis)

    If I’m a business owner in NYC, I’m quaking in my boots, and the increased taxes are the least of the reasons.

    My hope is that a Chicago-type situation develops, where the city council retains some semblance of common sense and can act as a bulwark against the absolute insanity that’s about to come out of the NYC mayor’s office.

    Read some recent Chicago Tribune editorials. I would describe the Tribune as mainstream left editorially. The socialist mayor is literally attempting to bankrupt the city. His budget was recently voted down by the council literally 50-0, and his approval rating sits at 14%.

    Good job, NYC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    im assuming you havent visited sf lately, apologies if im wrong somehow.


    also nyc will never have the sort of homeless situation you see in those western states because the winter kills the homeless who dont flee it. this city just isnt wired for homeless people / tent cities / fent zombies in numbers.
    You’re correct, I have not, and I will assume that it’s in better shape now under more moderate dem leadership now than it was when the Mamdani-type far leftists were in charge circa 2021.

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    Quote Originally Posted by go_buccos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    Does AI write Yahoo’s articles now?

    Portland/SF/LA will never lose their crown.

    Sonatine makes an excellent observation about drug use, homelessness and the weather - it can be likened to the pest problem found in the southwest. Winter kill solves these problems
    While yours and Sonatine’s points are valid, they willfully ignore the multitudes of other problems that come with far left leadership in cities that have winters orders of magnitude harsher than NYC. (Read: Minneapolis)

    If I’m a business owner in NYC, I’m quaking in my boots, and the increased taxes are the least of the reasons.

    My hope is that a Chicago-type situation develops, where the city council retains some semblance of common sense and can act as a bulwark against the absolute insanity that’s about to come out of the NYC mayor’s office.

    Read some recent Chicago Tribune editorials. I would describe the Tribune as mainstream left editorially. The socialist mayor is literally attempting to bankrupt the city. His budget was recently voted down by the council literally 50-0, and his approval rating sits at 14%.

    Good job, NYC!
    I just thought it extremely unfair and unkind to compare NYC to SF/LA. Your points are valid otherwise.

    I remember walking around Times Square for the danger and kicks once upon a time. My wife and her girlfriends go there for a girls weekend now.

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    Most of us here are old, and at least can remember the 80s and early 90s fairly well. Many here were adults during those years.

    I've posted about this before, but it's worth repeating. Rudy Giuliani, despite his recent embarrassing follies (which I attribute to early senility), did a tremendous job in NYC once he took office in the mid-90s.

    NYC was in a horrible state when Rudy took office in 1994. The city was a crime-ridden shithole, Times Square was a dangerous slum, Central Park was a no-go zone of drug use and muggings/rape, and the budget was in horrible shape. The prior mayor, David Dinkins, only made things worse. Some of the problems went back decades.

    Rudy came in and fixed all of this. It also helped that Republican George Pataki came in a year later, upsetting Super Mario, and supported what Rudy was doing.

    Within a relatively short time, the budget was balanced, Times Square was safe and vibrant, Central Park was a nice place to visit again (even at night!), and crime was on a steep trajectory downward.

    That's an example of how a good mayor can rapidly improve things.

    A horrible mayor can do the opposite. NYC forgot the lessons it learned from the 90s, and keeps shooting itself in the foot. DeBlasio was bad enough, but Mamdani will be worse. Eric Adams, for all his corruption and other faults, at least isn't a socialist lunatic. Half the time he makes some sense.

    There's been a lot of focus on Mamdani's city-owned grocery store plan, which indeed will be full of fail, and is being compared to the days of empty shelves in '80s USSR. However, that's just a small taste of the problems which might occur when this guy is in charge.

    Keep in mind that he's pro-Hamas and in fact is very close to the founders of a group which donated $12 million to Hamas.

    I've always had a fascination with NYC from afar, since I almost grew up in that metro area. Had my parents not moved when I was 1, I would have grown up about the same distance from NYC as I ended up being from downtown LA. Many times I have wondered what my life would have been like if my parents never left northern NJ, and I grew up there. Part of me thinks I'd be at some shitty software job in the area, and married to an obnoxious east coast Jewish chick. Probably better that I left.

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    Been a while since I have been in NYC, so can't really comment. But I grew up outside of Philadelphia and went there last summer, I stayed at a Hilton property downtown. I was shocked, homleless women were literally shitting in the street, drug use was rampant, I am not talking about random crack use but needles. I wore sandals for like an hour and immediately switch to sneakers since there were used needles all over the place. I never felt unsafe, primarily because everyone on the street were completely strung out. Police did not give a shit, I guess I don't blame them I mean what are you going to do if someone is shooting up? I spoke to an Uber driver, he says his business was booming, but outside an airport run 90% of his drives were 4 or 5 blocks, people just did not want to walk given the plethora of homeless. I literally gave out like $20 in ones, just because I felt sorry for these fuckers. One guy I gave 2 bucks to, said he lost it all when he fell from a construction site on some black ice and screwed up his back. He started taking percocets, and a couple years later graduated to street grade heroin. Tough beat.

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    I currently have an apartment in NYC that my daughter lives in. I visit every other month and have been closely monitoring the situation with this Mayor.

    Not only is he anti-semite Muslim, but he's a defund the police cunt - even more than Diblasio was. The city will be fucked. Look for more Pro Iran and Hamas terrorist riots on college campuses and street closures.

    The only hope to avoid this if Cuomo runs as an independent or if someohow Curtis Sliwa can beat him (not likely). The city is fucked and the Gov won't do shit because she is just a tool of the far left. People with $$$$$ will go to Palm Beach and take their businesses and employees with them. The city will fail economically. All you will see is boarded up buildings. This is going to be really bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerveza Fria View Post
    I currently have an apartment in NYC that my daughter lives in. I visit every other month and have been closely monitoring the situation with this Mayor.

    Not only is he anti-semite Muslim, but he's a defund the police cunt - even more than Diblasio was. The city will be fucked. Look for more Pro Iran and Hamas terrorist riots on college campuses and street closures.

    The only hope to avoid this if Cuomo runs as an independent or if someohow Curtis Sliwa can beat him (not likely). The city is fucked and the Gov won't do shit because she is just a tool of the far left. People with $$$$$ will go to Palm Beach and take their businesses and employees with them. The city will fail economically. All you will see is boarded up buildings. This is going to be really bad.
    For every fuck up there is an opportunity. Let's hope this paves the way for thesparten to get another pizza place going in the Bronx.

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      The Boz: Bigger question, is the city even worth saving. Let it go to hell to prove lib policies don’t work.

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    The inevitable outcome of this will be a good thing long term, again showing the results of the implementation of far left policies.

    While the GOP will never win national elections in these states, the fear of turning the country into them helps carry the swing states. Normal middle class America doesn’t want their state to be the next CA, NY or OR.

    As for those living in NY and don’t agree with this nonsense, the answer is simple, MOVE.

     
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    What are you guys talking about, Cuomo is a lock.
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    Polls are clearly used to manipulate rather than inform.
    Mandini seems like a nice enough guy. His policies will be identical to cuomo.
    There's a big dif in saying something and actually doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by go_buccos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    im assuming you havent visited sf lately, apologies if im wrong somehow.


    also nyc will never have the sort of homeless situation you see in those western states because the winter kills the homeless who dont flee it. this city just isnt wired for homeless people / tent cities / fent zombies in numbers.
    You’re correct, I have not, and I will assume that it’s in better shape now under more moderate dem leadership now than it was when the Mamdani-type far leftists were in charge circa 2021.

    to be totally honest i have no idea what changed, but someone somewhere pushed a button and suddenly its a city again.


    also just so you know, an awful lot of us would love nothing more than whores and peep shows in times square and everything south of union square being a mad max situation because an awful lot of artists would love to get their hands on those lofts.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Just learned that his candidate supports the 9/11 terrorist.

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    Lets hope Mossad doesn't try something stupid,. My message to Mossad, don't do it.
    No matter how elaborate the whole world will know it's you.
    Your beliefs about Iran and Palestinians are based on extreme paranoia, delusion and lies.
    Your extreme paranoia prevents you from seeing your neighbors and the world want equality and peaceful coexistence.

     
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    adams calling him a snake oil salesman is probably a 100% valid criticism.

    tbh i dont really understand these numbers;



    id have bet for cuomo to win handily but clearly i underestimated how tarnished his brand was.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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