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    Yeah I derailed your wagering thread starting with the news breaking last night. I was so legit shocked I dropped it on lol wow and it went from there. Apologies if you have to clean it up. This thread had slid and it was an organic moment of wtf.

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    Fox to San Antonio, Zach Lavine to Sacramento and picks to Chicago.

    West is loading up while the Sixers blow a 26 point 3rd Q lead to Boston.

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    The Kings just got a better return for Fox than Dallas did for Luka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Haralabob has a surprising take on this.

    I thought he might be quiet about the trade, given the reports of friction between him and Doncic during Bob's time with the Mavericks.

    This would seem to vindicate Haralabob, as it seems the entire Mavericks organization got tired of Doncic, and let him go despite his massive talent (and young age).

    However, here's what Haralabob had to say on X:

    This will go down as one of (Probably THE) worst trades in the history of Sports. You just traded away a top 3 player in the prime of his career and your return was a single first and a soon to be 32 year old Anthony Davis. The fact that you threw in a 2nd for good measure is just *chefs kiss*

    The Nets got 4 unprotected firsts + a pick swap plus Johnson and Bridges who they later traded for FIVE FIRSTS and a pick swap for KD who was 34 at the time of that trade.

    The Mavs had a top 3 defense last season after the deadline trades and then lost in the Finals to one of if not the greatest offensive teams in NBA History in the Celtics.

    If you think defense wins championships and you want to be 3 Centers Deep on your roster - and play AD at the 4 while forcing PJ to guard 3s, Klay to guard 2s and Kyrie to guard 1s good luck with that.

    The Mavs now have one player on their roster who can create a a shot for himself or for others in Kyrie and he's about to turn 33.

    The only other thing I'll add to this is Dennis Lindsey was with the Mavs last year and is a great basketball mind.

    He left to work for the Pistons this season. Do with that what you will.


    The funniest thing in all of this was thanking Pelinka for agreeing to keep things quiet and not sharing the idea of a trade with anyone - of course he wanted to keep it quiet, the last thing he wanted was for someone at the Mavs with a brain to find out and nix it - or for god forbid it leaks and other teams started offering realistic packages.

    Pelinka cooked.

    He's right about Pelinka.

    Pelinka kept quiet about it for the same reason casino advantage players keep things quiet when they find a monster play. Once the word gets out, you're fucked.


    Anyway, from the above statement, you'd never think he and Doncic ever had issues. Maybe they didn't, and the media was overblowing it. I know Bob denied it at the time.

    Oh... by the way. Bob and I are what I'd consider friendly acquaintances. We follow each other on Twitter, interact sometimes, and have DM'd on occasion. We aren't friends, but we get along well enough, and there's a chance I could get him on radio, if there's interest, which I assume there would be.
    I follow Haralabob on Twitter and listen whenever he goes on Bill Simmons. He never explicitly said it, but from what he did say my reading between the tea leaves understanding is Doncic did get upset at him for leaving a blowout loss early (he said he was going upstairs to work on his laptop which he often did at the end of games that were over already, but Luka took offense this time because he was salty from getting blown out), and that may have contributed to his ouster from the Mavs, but Haralobob didn't take it personally and get petty about it. He has always stated he believes Luka is a generational talent that could be even better if he cleaned up his diet and conditioning.

    Also, I was listening to another Ringer pod where the host was explaining the Mavs GM is not just friendly with Davis and his agent, but also very friendly with Pelinka (Lakers GM); so that could have influenced why Mavs didn't shop Luka and just went with the Lakers offer. If this goes bad and he gets fired wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in the Lakers organization or working with Klutch down the line. That is how these things work.

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    philly will always be trash until they understand the chicken cheesesteak with marinara is a far superior sandwich compated to the average cheesesteak

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol wow View Post
    philly will always be trash until they understand the chicken cheesesteak with marinara is a far superior sandwich compated to the average cheesesteak
    And real cheese is far superior to that nasty cheez whiz stuff.

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    bro i was factoring white american and cooper sharp/provolone you fucking terrorist

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    Was a little worried about Luka conditioning to lay 13, but knew they’d come out firing and the arena would be nuts. Kind of mad I didn’t bet more. Such an easy spot. Lakers are a decent rim protector away from being top 5 contender. Maybe close as is. Ball movement is going to be elite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Was a little worried about Luka conditioning to lay 13, but knew they’d come out firing and the arena would be nuts. Kind of mad I didn’t bet more. Such an easy spot. Lakers are a decent rim protector away from being top 5 contender. Maybe close as is. Ball movement is going to be elite.
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    Nice hit.

    You were right to worry. Luka didn't have a good game, at least not so far, but they're blowing out the Jazz.

    Somehow this team was playing over its head, and still is, so they are winning despite Luka. Well, that and the Jazz suck.

    You wouldn't expect a team of a 40-year-old Lebron, Rui Hachimura, Austin Reaves, and a bunch of nobodies to be crushing good (and not so good) opponents midseason, but somehow they are. Very unexpected. This year seemed to have fail written all over it, especially with AD being injured again. Instead they are the hottest team in the NBA right now, even with AD out. If Luka shakes off the rust and conditions better, this could be a very tough squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Was a little worried about Luka conditioning to lay 13, but knew they’d come out firing and the arena would be nuts. Kind of mad I didn’t bet more. Such an easy spot. Lakers are a decent rim protector away from being top 5 contender. Maybe close as is. Ball movement is going to be elite.
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    Nice hit.

    You were right to worry. Luka didn't have a good game, at least not so far, but they're blowing out the Jazz.

    Somehow this team was playing over its head, and still is, so they are winning despite Luka. Well, that and the Jazz suck.

    You wouldn't expect a team of a 40-year-old Lebron, Rui Hachimura, Austin Reaves, and a bunch of nobodies to be crushing good (and not so good) opponents midseason, but somehow they are. Very unexpected. This year seemed to have fail written all over it, especially with AD being injured again. Instead they are the hottest team in the NBA right now, even with AD out. If Luka shakes off the rust and conditions better, this could be a very tough squad.
    It's amazing how good he is despite his weight, just lays waste to teams in the postseason.

    Nothing still makes any sense. A peak Anthony Davis with zero injury history would still have been a thin return.

    I don't like watching Luka but he's undeniable.

    Probably 3-4 guys in the whole league that have better long term value than Luka - Wemby, Jokic, SGA and probably Giannis.

    The return of an injury plagued (already hurt, lol) Anthony Davis and scraps is unconscionable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Was a little worried about Luka conditioning to lay 13, but knew they’d come out firing and the arena would be nuts. Kind of mad I didn’t bet more. Such an easy spot. Lakers are a decent rim protector away from being top 5 contender. Maybe close as is. Ball movement is going to be elite.
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    Nice hit.

    You were right to worry. Luka didn't have a good game, at least not so far, but they're blowing out the Jazz.

    Somehow this team was playing over its head, and still is, so they are winning despite Luka. Well, that and the Jazz suck.

    You wouldn't expect a team of a 40-year-old Lebron, Rui Hachimura, Austin Reaves, and a bunch of nobodies to be crushing good (and not so good) opponents midseason, but somehow they are. Very unexpected. This year seemed to have fail written all over it, especially with AD being injured again. Instead they are the hottest team in the NBA right now, even with AD out. If Luka shakes off the rust and conditions better, this could be a very tough squad.
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    Nice hit.

    You were right to worry. Luka didn't have a good game, at least not so far, but they're blowing out the Jazz.

    Somehow this team was playing over its head, and still is, so they are winning despite Luka. Well, that and the Jazz suck.

    You wouldn't expect a team of a 40-year-old Lebron, Rui Hachimura, Austin Reaves, and a bunch of nobodies to be crushing good (and not so good) opponents midseason, but somehow they are. Very unexpected. This year seemed to have fail written all over it, especially with AD being injured again. Instead they are the hottest team in the NBA right now, even with AD out. If Luka shakes off the rust and conditions better, this could be a very tough squad.
    It's amazing how good he is despite his weight, just lays waste to teams in the postseason.

    Nothing still makes any sense. A peak Anthony Davis with zero injury history would still have been a thin return.

    I don't like watching Luka but he's undeniable.

    Probably 3-4 guys in the whole league that have better long term value than Luka - Wemby, Jokic, SGA and probably Giannis.

    The return of an injury plagued (already hurt, lol) Anthony Davis and scraps is unconscionable.
    Two ball dominant players playing together is one of the hardest adjustments to integrate. Even LeBron Wade in their primes was an uneasy fit for a full year and offensively was always less ideal than what you’d want. They were so intense on defense it didn’t matter.


    The weird part is LeBron for last 2 weeks looks like he’s blood doping like a cyclist.

    He has played at higher level energy wise than I have seen him play since Cleveland. He was a dog on defense even and I havent seen that in years.

    A month ago you’d just naturally say go play off ball and let everything run through Luka, but given how he looks, both guys are going to have to feel it out. The thing that makes them so tough is LBJ, Luka, and Reaves are legit 3 of the highest Iq players in the league so you’re always gong to have someone on the floor who keeps the ball moving for good looks.

    Assuming health and Luka plays into shape, the only real problem they’re going to have is the good teams with big guys. Denver and OKC, especially assuming Chet is healthy come playoffs. They could get killed on the offensive boards. But Luka and Lebrons sheer size helps a little. They can make it hard to dominate on the glass. Both take good angles to rebounds and use their width well, but still need a rim protector 7 footer just for matchups against certain teams.

    Considering it looked like a dying team about to roll into irrelevance in a few years, it’s amazing how they rolled Dallas if the league didn’t fix it and Pelinka just hustled a tard GM. The future becomes bright for a decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
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    Nice hit.

    You were right to worry. Luka didn't have a good game, at least not so far, but they're blowing out the Jazz.

    Somehow this team was playing over its head, and still is, so they are winning despite Luka. Well, that and the Jazz suck.

    You wouldn't expect a team of a 40-year-old Lebron, Rui Hachimura, Austin Reaves, and a bunch of nobodies to be crushing good (and not so good) opponents midseason, but somehow they are. Very unexpected. This year seemed to have fail written all over it, especially with AD being injured again. Instead they are the hottest team in the NBA right now, even with AD out. If Luka shakes off the rust and conditions better, this could be a very tough squad.
    It's amazing how good he is despite his weight, just lays waste to teams in the postseason.

    Nothing still makes any sense. A peak Anthony Davis with zero injury history would still have been a thin return.

    I don't like watching Luka but he's undeniable.

    Probably 3-4 guys in the whole league that have better long term value than Luka - Wemby, Jokic, SGA and probably Giannis.

    The return of an injury plagued (already hurt, lol) Anthony Davis and scraps is unconscionable.
    So 4 other foreign born players and Boston probably doesn't do Tatum either given his durability and fit. Personally I move Giannis for him as he seems to be getting unhappy and he's now 30. Luka is better than Tatum, but that would be hard sell to Boston fans. The funny part is this Nico dude hangs with all the old head American players. As an old head, I laugh at how the retired American black dudes really still don't get it.

    I love Barkley, but from Golden State can't win shooting those 3s a decade ago to a hundred other retarded things, they just can't come to grips with the young American players aren't keeping up with these best from around the world right now and how the game has changed.

    There is maybe 1 American in top 6 guys and all the best American players are aging out of the league. Edwards game isn't polished and I am not sure it ever will be. It is like that trade was orchestrated from some committee of dumbass old American black dudes sitting around talking about the good old days and how AD is like them back when the game was all dunks and defense. It's that ownership didn't put a stop to it that is fishy. The stands in Dallas are open seats everywhere, protests outside, ejecting fans from stands, death threats to Nico. Add in AD immediate injury because they rushed him back to take heat off and it is worst case shit show.

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    Throwing fans out for t-shirts, signs, and now for even mouthing the words "fire Nico" is over the line. The Cowboys are obviously more popular in North and East Texas but the Mavericks per capita are 10x more beloved here. I'm in Texas now and this is still the thing everyone is talking about. Dirk is by far still the most respected athlete and celebrity here as well. His two decade long tenure of doing things the right way ended with what should have been the good karma of keeping someone like Luka for life. It's unforgivable, and no one would blame him now for taking a job with another team and disassociating himself with this franchise entirely until there's new ownership. Fuck this version of the Mavs. I hope, and it's looking more and more likely to be the case with his latest comments, that Kyrie opts out this summer and signs somewhere else - hopefully with the Lakers for extra emphasis. Why would any player of any standing ever want to play for or trust these clowns again?


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    Meanwhile, the Blazers did nothing at the deadline, presumably because they had miraculously won 9 of 10 leading into it.

    Shocking level of apathy for a rebuilding team with multiple tradeable vets.

    Not Dallas level bad management, but not far off. If Simons, Grant, time lord, and even Ayton are still on the team beginning of next season, that should be grounds for dismissal

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    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    Meanwhile, the Blazers did nothing at the deadline, presumably because they had miraculously won 9 of 10 leading into it.

    Shocking level of apathy for a rebuilding team with multiple tradeable vets.

    Not Dallas level bad management, but not far off. If Simons, Grant, time lord, and even Ayton are still on the team beginning of next season, that should be grounds for dismissal
    Agreed, so dumb. None of those guys you named will be part of the future. Grant especially should have been moved while he's playing well.

    Simons is one of my least favorite players I've ever had to watch for an extended length.
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    Watched both Laker games. Luka looks fat and slow. The only center on the roster (Hayes) who isn't even any good got hurt early in the 2nd game. They got Len on the buyout market, but he is a slow offensive center who wasn't even playing on whatever bad team he was on, and the Lakers need someone with more spring to play defense and catch lobs.

    Luka looks like he has to lose 20 pounds and the team isn't really constructed around his skill set. They basically have 3 big, slow point guards in their starting rotation. Reaves is actually playing very well, but his skill set is very redundant with Lebron and Luka.

    Lakers aren't going to be able to stop any athletic team. They dont really have anyone in their starting rotation to guard any perimeter players. They are going to have to just try to outscore them.

    Maybe overs are the play if books don't adjust quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    Meanwhile, the Blazers did nothing at the deadline, presumably because they had miraculously won 9 of 10 leading into it.

    Shocking level of apathy for a rebuilding team with multiple tradeable vets.

    Not Dallas level bad management, but not far off. If Simons, Grant, time lord, and even Ayton are still on the team beginning of next season, that should be grounds for dismissal
    Agreed, so dumb. None of those guys you named will be part of the future. Grant especially should have been moved while he's playing well.

    Simons is one of my least favorite players I've ever had to watch for an extended length.
    The problem is their winning streak coinciding with putting "the future" on the bench, and playing all the players you guys think need to get shipped.

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    Kyrie looks like he may have torn his ACL. Trade for AD and he plays one game and is out. Entire team on the wrong side of 30 and injury plagued. Meanwhile the Lakers somehow play better defense now than they ever did with AD and Luka still isn’t in shape.

    Mavs were in the finals last year and only a few teams had better future. Now they have an old and injury plagued team heading for the lottery. Truly staggering.

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