Next the Spurs will trade Wembanyama for Lebron because theyre looking for some veteran leadership.
Next the Spurs will trade Wembanyama for Lebron because theyre looking for some veteran leadership.
He’s the only dude who would be more shocking. I don’t think I have ever been more surprised by a trade.Originally Posted by gut
A 25 year old who lead the league in scoring last year, lead his team to the finals, is statistically a top 10 player all time in efficiency, and is on his way to being one of the most marketable athletes in the world for a 32 year old center who averages playing roughly 50 games a year - make it make sense.
https://twitter.com/espn/status/1885920796985495949
Even if he was trying to force way out only to Lakers, for this return, it still doesn’t make sense. You would never rush this. Like at minimum Deshaun Watson level shit, but more like multiple pending sexual assault allegations is like the only thing that would make this make sense given his value in an open market.A 25 year old who lead the league in scoring last year, lead his team to the finals, is statistically a top 10 player all time in efficiency, and is on his way to being one of the most marketable athletes in the world for a 32 year old center who averages playing roughly 50 games a year - make it make sense.
https://twitter.com/espn/status/1885920796985495949
That’s not happening, but that’s what it would take for me to not want to burn the arena down if I’m a serious Mavs fan.
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Word on the street is the Mavs just are sick of Luka. They were on the hook to pay him $345M next year, and they were frustrated that Luka comes in fat every training camp. They attribute his weight to his injuries. I can't stand the NBA, but every now and again I go to a game live when I get invited for free. Two years ago I attended a Mavs game, and Luka scored like 28 points, but he was laboring to get back and forth on the court. He also took plays off not even to attempt to hustle. Now that could have been an aberration, I don't know since the only time I watch an NBA game is if I have money on it. But if its a consistent theme I can see the GM thinking lets get what we can for the guy and move on. It's not like weight issues get better when you get older, its not unfathomable when his metabolism shuts down at age 30 he comes into camp 280 lbs. I think the Mavs probably think there are plenty of shooters in the NBA, and Anthony Davis could very well have a Kareem type career where he lasts until age 40. You can't teach height.Even if he was trying to force way out only to Lakers, for this return, it still doesn’t make sense. You would never rush this. Like at minimum Deshaun Watson level shit, but more like multiple pending sexual assault allegations is like the only thing that would make this make sense given his value in an open market.
That’s not happening, but that’s what it would take for me to not want to burn the arena down if I’m a serious Mavs fan.
rofl davis peaked 5 years ago lol mark jewban
dallas plus 13 feels good like they are gonna play their ass off to show up my big fat show pony laker
This was what I read as well. The guy simply does not have a champions mindset. The celtics ran his ass into the ground last year. I would have thought they would have got more “upside” in the deal because davis or no this is the start of a rebuild.Word on the street is the Mavs just are sick of Luka. They were on the hook to pay him $345M next year, and they were frustrated that Luka comes in fat every training camp. They attribute his weight to his injuries. I can't stand the NBA, but every now and again I go to a game live when I get invited for free. Two years ago I attended a Mavs game, and Luka scored like 28 points, but he was laboring to get back and forth on the court. He also took plays off not even to attempt to hustle. Now that could have been an aberration, I don't know since the only time I watch an NBA game is if I have money on it. But if its a consistent theme I can see the GM thinking lets get what we can for the guy and move on. It's not like weight issues get better when you get older, its not unfathomable when his metabolism shuts down at age 30 he comes into camp 280 lbs. I think the Mavs probably think there are plenty of shooters in the NBA, and Anthony Davis could very well have a Kareem type career where he lasts until age 40. You can't teach height.
I think there is some small amount of value in taking the eagles.
what does this mean exactly? would you take eagles?
All the 100-1 + and 80-1 are long gone. Hopefully you were able to snag some.
Shit its 40-1 at BOL now.
Like i said - I dont make him the favorite but i could very easily see him near the top of the leaderboard over the weekend.
Agreed, Davis was probably though the best that was offered in the league. From what you read Luka is impossible to get along with. I am sure the Lakers feel Lebron can mentor him, and if he does he will be the face of the Lakers for 10 years. But I think the Mavs, either way said we are not going to give $345M to this guy. Attitude does matter, I mean the Browns are saddled with Deshaun Watson, it basically set the team back another 5 years. For whatever reason the Mavs said we need to jettison this guy. Some players just poison the locker room to the point you got to get rid of them. Antonio Brown, Trevor Bauer, John Rocker, etc.. I am quite sure there is plenty we don't know.This was what I read as well. The guy simply does not have a champions mindset. The celtics ran his ass into the ground last year. I would have thought they would have got more “upside” in the deal because davis or no this is the start of a rebuild.
lol at trying to spin this in any way other than the Mavs got absolutely fleeced. They didn’t even make it known Luka was available.
Old ass KD netted Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, and 4 unprotected firsts and a pick swap.
A year later Mikal Bridges somehow netted 5 1sts in a trade.
Say what you want about Luka’s conditioning and attitude but he’s a generational talent and only 25.
The Mavs could’ve gotten a way better haul had they made it known he was available.
It’s an insane trade that is malpractice at best and collusion at worst.
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Yeah this is insanity. First off, Luka fat is an alpha dog. 5 first team all NBA selections and lead lesser teams to the WCF then Finals by 24. He hits the big shot. Is the best player on the floor almost always. The out of shape thing has to change, but an in shape AD has always been far more injury plagued. Of course the Celtics ran him off the floor, they have the 2-6 best players in the series and depth. That was a years long project. Luka had the Mavs already to the point the Celtics were like 3 years ago before they added Porzingis and Jrue.
AD has averaged 50 games a year for his career. He has played over 65 games once in 6 years. That he has played well and been healthy recently is pure recency bias. Plus he is a pure beta. As the first option, his team was play in material. Way too laid back and quiet to ever be a leader of any sort. I never heard a word about Luka being a bad teammate. This is the first period of Kyrie stability in forever since he's been playing with Luka. If you're a stats guy, everything runs through him so that might be a little frustrating, but I have never heard he's an ass. And it's not like Luka is Zion, his game is by nature an old mans game. He doesn't rely on athleticism. He will drop 20 lbs like he has multiple times already and be elite for a dozen years. It is the worst trade I have ever seen. It would be horrible if AD himself was also 25, but on the wrong side of 30, unthinkable.
They did not want to pay him $345M over 5 years. It does not get any more involved than that. The Mavs obviously wanted to get rid of him. They are not stupid, they probably were sick of him for whatever reason.
Everyone is getting that money, many who will be worthless for last 2 years. Luka locked down on that contract is worth even more. It makes him available to trade to any team. The offers would be things we have never seen. The Mavs are historically stupid. They hired the worst coach available to drive a ferrari. I love you, but you're not an NBA guy. Having 1 of 5 or 6 guys is all that matters. He is one of those guys and will be for a long time. AD isn't close. He never has and never will be.They did not want to pay him $345M over 5 years. It does not get any more involved than that. The Mavs obviously wanted to get rid of him. They are not stupid, they probably were sick of him for whatever reason.
You are correct, I am no NBA guy, that is certain. But I do have common sense. It's not like the team decided to degrade their team for no reason. You are not in the locker room, and my point is this might and probably is not as one sided as you think. I remember when everyone in the baseball world blasted the St Louis Cardinals for letting Albert Pujols sign with the Angles. His career went into steep decline shortly thereafter and the Cardinals won a another couple rings. Someone in that front office thinks he is in decline. Physically, personally, mentally, etc..Everyone is getting that money, many who will be worthless for last 2 years. Luka locked down on that contract is worth even more. It makes him available to trade to any team. The offers would be things we have never seen. The Mavs are historically stupid. They hired the worst coach available to drive a ferrari. I love you, but you're not an NBA guy. Having 1 of 5 or 6 guys is all that matters. He is one of those guys and will be for a long time. AD isn't close. He never has and never will be.
At a time when everyone is calling anything DEI mistakes, if there is ever a DEI mistake, Cuban hiring Kidd and this Nico Harrison, a shoe rep for Nike who famously called Steph Curry Seth and then showed him a video for Durant costing them a zillion dollars when he dropped them and went with UA is an example of bad DEI/inside baseball hires. Bucks win championship the minute they ditch Kidd. Luka carried marginal players because he's that good. You can't compare NBA to any other team sport. Ohtani on Angels guaranteed nothing. Even with Trout also. One great top 3-5 player in the NBA is enough to get you to the conference finals. They elevate everyone.,You are correct, I am no NBA guy, that is certain. But I do have common sense. It's not like the team decided to degrade their team for no reason. You are not in the locker room, and my point is this might and probably is not as one sided as you think. I remember when everyone in the baseball world blasted the St Louis Cardinals for letting Albert Pujols sign with the Angles. His career went into steep decline shortly thereafter and the Cardinals won a another couple rings. Someone in that front office thinks he is in decline. Physically, personally, mentally, etc..
The thing is Tgull even if the Mavs had some inside information (maybe he has a degenerative health condition, maybe he has been sexually assaulting masseuses, maybe he’s been murdering people like Aaron Hernandez) that led them to the conclusion they have to trade him they still didn’t get even remotely close to max value for him. It’s indefensible no matter the spin or reason.
Plus AD makes 54 next year, 58.5 next year, and 62.7 million the next 3 years as an oft injured player hitting mid thirties. Then you have to give him some contract as large as Luka where he will be worthless at the end or else you traded away the future for nothing. He isn't Kareem with a sky hook. He's a 6'10 big man dunker with an average jump shot. He is very good and they might be good this year, but that team was entirely constructed around Luka. It will be a good defense, but no spacing on offense. Luka is a 6'7 kid who can play anything from PG to SF. For next season. Luka is 10 million cheaper. It reeks of some type of collusion beyond any personality thing or the dumbest thing I have ever seen.
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