Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post

People have short memories. If things go back to the status quo and the Palestinians in Gaza can continue the belligerence, supported by Western leftists and states like Qatar and Iran, it will be a disaster for Israel; one that greatly diminishes them. IF they can actually pacify Gaza and force some kind of real peace, then eventually the world will forget and move on.

I have no clue if it can/will happen though. Given the small size of their country, and the low tolerance of the Israeli public with losing soldiers lives, there may be no way to accomplish the task without too many Israeli soldiers dying/injured. And other Western nations dont have the tolerance for allowing Israel to undergo a safer war effort for themselves, which would result in a lot more collateral damage.
In general I like your takes on things. That being Israel is just too small to do a military operation like many want.

I do have to question the following narrative - "Gaza can continue the belligerence, supported by Western leftists."

The positon seems to typically be that they want Israel to do something about Gaza/Palestinians. Act on the actions of the crazy settlers. Until this there is a great lack of sympathy for the Israeli side because they see little coming from the Israeli side. Also many in Gaza just are stunted in their opportunities. I can't say I know enough to know what and who to fully blame but if you read the econmic stats on gaza it is somewhat shocking.

These leftists stand against the current strictly pro-Israel narratives but to be fair, many are just being tribal/woke. Yet there is an important distinction from blindly supporting Hamas. Liberals seem more ready to acknowledge how few choices and opportunities many in Gaza have which means lack of sympathy for Israel being attacked. That doesn't mean they support but they understand.

It is a great talking point to dismiss the liberals views though. I'm sure the Zionists love to see that sort of thought process.

I might have to repost my post from another thread. Sadly I had no useful responses where I'd like to hear the views of the opposing sides.