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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Reminds of me of Seth MacFarlane on 9/11.

    He was supposed to be on one of the planes that hit one of the towers, but his travel agent gave him the wrong time by 30 minutes, and he got there at what he thought was the last minute due to a hangover.
    Trump's Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick was CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald decided to take his son to his 1st day of Kindergarten the day of 9-11. His office was on the top floor of the WTC. He was stuck in traffic when the first plane hit.

    Donald Trump in 1989 was supposed to be on the Helicopter with his executive team to Atlantic City. At the last minute he declined because he was working on something else. Copter crashed everyone dead.

    Life can be mysterious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    So far nobody has proven that the "sole survivor" is a liar.

    Dude may be legit. Weird.
    it must be legit https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd901xn4001o

    also if you want to survive a plane crash with this type of plane, you'll want to sit in seat 11A... i mean what are the odds of this...!!???


    When Thai actor-singer Ruangsak Loychusak saw news of the June 12 Air India plane crash, one detail sent chills down his spine. The sole survivor was in seat 11A – the same seat number as Mr Ruangsak’s when he survived a deadly crash nearly 27 years ago. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se...from-same-seat

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    Welcome to the new craze in airline travel...

    Thai singer Ruangsak Loychusak, known as “Iron Bones,” survived a deadly 1998 plane crash that killed 101 people. His seat? 11A.
    Fast forward 27 years — the sole survivor of last week’s Air India crash in Ahmedabad also walked away from the wreckage… seated in 11A.
    Ruangsak shared his shock at the eerie coincidence, calling it “goosebump-worthy” and offering his condolences to the victims’ families.
    Two crashes. 27 years apart. Same seat. One unbelievable reminder of how fragile life really is.


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    You’re going to have to book a year in advance now to get 11A. Everyone is going to be asking about it. But the worst part is if you get it there is going to be 20 randoms striking up conversations about how you got the lucky seat.


    What show am I thinking about? Movie or tv where someone is the sole survivor? I recall a storyline similar. Might have been a train derailment.

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    Captain Steeeve has changed his theory due to new/clearer video + audio... looks and sounds like the RAT was deployed
    (Ram Air Turbine) due to dual engine failure... he explains and shows what the RAT is and how it sounds when deployed.... love this guy....


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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post


    What show am I thinking about? Movie or tv where someone is the sole survivor? I recall a storyline similar. Might have been a train derailment.
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    I haven’t been following terribly closely, but have they ruled out double bird strike yet?

    Not much Boeing can do about that…

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    Quote Originally Posted by go_buccos View Post
    I haven’t been following terribly closely, but have they ruled out double bird strike yet?

    Not much Boeing can do about that…

    i believe the pilot would have immediately called that out instead of just saying hes lost thrust in both engines
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    Depending on the plane AND the type of crash, the bulkhead and close but behind the wings has shown to be the safer place to sit in quite a few crashes.


    Of course there is sweet fuck all you can do if the pilot is suicidal and plants it straight into a mountain or the ocean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by go_buccos View Post

    I haven’t been following terribly closely, but have they ruled out double bird strike yet?

    Not much Boeing can do about that…

    i believe the pilot would have immediately called that out instead of just saying hes lost thrust in both engines
    Again nowhere near an expert on this, but I don’t think bird strikes are always immediately obvious to the cockpit crew.

    IIRC it took until the recovery of the plane to determine this was responsible for Miracle on the Hudson. From what I can remember Sully didn’t say anything about birds on the way down.

    That said, my memory could be *extremely* faulty here.

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    i was seat 1d today at 6 am but ive literally thought about just doing the jump out the exit door if the plane is going down for fucking years like for fucking years man is hero

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lol wow View Post
    i was seat 1d today at 6 am but ive literally thought about just doing the jump out the exit door if the plane is going down for fucking years like for fucking years man is hero
    Seat 1D blows. They like to say it has more legroom, but it's a lie, because you're straight into the fucking bulkhead, whereas with a seat in front of you, your legs can still go under that seat somewhat.

    Also a lot of time that seat is cold, or it smells bad because the bathroom is nearby.

    In general, I say fuck Row 1.

    On a side note, I'm starting to become concerned that we are entering a new era in aviation where nobody knows what the fuck they're doing when it comes to maintenance or engineering safe planes, and these aircraft malfunction crashes are going to become more common.

    But maybe this really was pilot error or a double bird strike.

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    they are kinda ruling out bird strikes because they didn't find any dead birds on or near the runway... i am just repeating from Captain Steve and others who have good knowledge of this sort of stuff....

     
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    If it is engine failure, I’m sure Boeing will be through and transparent in their investigation.

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    There was nothing unusual about the first moments after takeoff. Then, Viswashkumar Ramesh said, it felt like the plane got stuck in midair.

    It wasn’t clear yet, but Air India Flight 171 was going down.

    Green and white lights suddenly illuminated the cabin. The next thing Ramesh knew, he was on the ground. Seated next to an emergency exit on the plane’s left side, he made his way outside.

    He saw that the right side of the plane had crashed into a building, blocking exits there. Then a massive fireball sent flames and black smoke billowing into the sky.

    “I don’t know how I survived,” Ramesh said, recounting the scene in an interview with India’s public broadcaster from his hospital bed. The British national, who had wounds on his face but appeared to have avoided major injury, is the crash’s lone survivor.

    Across the world’s most populous nation, Ramesh has become known as the miracle of window seat 11A.

    Read more: https://on.wsj.com/45nZFj8

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    Multiple reports saying it’s “near impossible” to accidentally turn these off.

    One of these 2 wanted the plane to go down.

     
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    Multiple reports saying it’s “near impossible” to accidentally turn these off.

    One of these 2 wanted the plane to go down.
    Suiciding pilots tend to do something more spectacular then just turning off fuel to the engines on takeoff. The flight might well have been recoverable from this point with a bit of luck. It's now been revealed that one of the pilots asked why the other had turned off the fuel-control switches and they were immediately afterwards turned back on.The fact that the landing gear wasn't retracted when it should have been makes me think that the pilot simply flipped the wrong switches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Multiple reports saying it’s “near impossible” to accidentally turn these off.

    One of these 2 wanted the plane to go down.
    correct, this is what i am seeing from pilots too, these are not normal switches that you can accidentally touch and turn off, from what other pilots are saying is, in order to turn them "switches" to be turned off, it is like a big gear shifter mechanism, first you would have to unlock it by depressing a red switch on top of the "gear selector type mechanism" then slide it down about 9 inches, then sideways about 9 inches and then back up another 9 inches and that would be for both engines each engine has it's own big switch type mechanism... kinda like if you were switching gears in a manual transmission big rig truck except with bigger strokes, from what they are saying is, these are mechanism type switches ( totally manual ) so the computer system would not have a chance to get in the way if a pilot really wanted to do this... the pilots are saying you would probably only do this ( engage the fuel shut offs ) is like if the engine(s) would catch fire while in flight...

    so one would really have to go extremely out of the way to do this... twice.. one for each engine...

     
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