Anyone needing a good laugh? Check out broke DJChaps crying over at Wizard of Vegas

[mickeycrimm]

Wizard of Vegas is a moderated site and mission146 is a former moderator there. He's a gambling writer for Latest Casino Bonuses which owns the Wizard of Odds site and also Wizard of Vegas. LCB bought the sites from Shack for 2.4 Million. However, Shack remains with the company as a paid consultant and figurehead.

Mission and Michael Shackleford have a long history together. They used to be real palsy-walsy. But the dynamic has changed somewhat. WOV uses suspensions to punish members for insults and hijacking.

About a month ago Shack suspended Mission for "insulting MDawg." The insult was Mission saying MDawg's thread, "Adventures of MDawg" was boring. I agree with Mission. It is boring so I never read it.

But a lot of people thought Shack was out of line on that one. Especially since Mission had just accepted a major task from Shack. He asked Mission to go thru every one of MDawg's posts over a few year and total up MDawg's reported win/loss at baccarat over that period. MDawg is one of those guys that claim they beat baccarat 24/7/365, rarely have a losing session. It took Mission several days to do the work.

Now, with this DJChump episode Shack has suspended Mission indefinitely until he pays DJ. Here's the suspension list:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info...ist/#post71165

[Dan Druff]

I've got no issue with Shackleford and have met him before. In person he's exactly what you'd expect -- a skinny, older, quiet intellectual-looking guy.

But that "Suspension List" mickeycrimm posted above is pretty amazing.

In just the last few weeks alone, they've suspended MrV, AxelWolf, MDawg, and 1 or two others. This is notable because MrV and AxelWolf are both good posters. I've met AxelWolf a number of times, and his posts are always well thought out and coherent. MrV is an attorney, and also makes quality posts. MDawg is also an attorney, and is somewhat controversial for various reasons, but I thought he and Shackleford were friendly.

It looks like they're heavily moderating the place, banning people for "insults", which is dumb. It's not even that active of a site anymore.

I guess this is why it's important to have Vegas Casino Talk around as an alternative. If anything, Vegas Casino Talk has the opposite problem -- I rarely suspend or ban anyone (aside from spammers), and there's tons of insulting/fighting going on there. But that's the way it already was when I showed up, so I kept it that way.

MDawg is controversial because he posts detailed stories of high stakes casino gambling, pictures of lavish suites, and claims to be a big winner, yet his stories don't quite add up. People questioning MDawg were getting banned on Wizard of Vegas for some time. This spilled over to Vegas Casino Talk, and I had to deal with it. I still am. I let everyone argue all they wanted, but then it got into doxxing, where people were posting MDawg's identity (or strong hints as to his identity), and then MDawg was doing the same thing to someone else. Whole thing was a big mess.

Doxxing is a huge thing in the AP (advantage play) world because casino executives monitor these forums, so the last thing you want as an AP is to be doxxed on a forum where you've made AP-type posts before. So I take that very seriously over there. Huge pain in my ass though.

[Dan Druff]

I don't feel like reading the whole DJChaps story over there.

But can someone tell me where the money is coming from, which is owed to Chaps?

Was it Mission's own money that he was giving away?

Or was it someone else's money that Mission was holding?

If it's the former, I can't see how it's fair to suspend Mission, as he's running a free contest with his own money. I feel he should only be suspended if he takes a super-excessive amount of time to pay, to where it's clear he's never going to. By these standards, I should be suspended from PFA for slow paying PFA freeroll $!

If it's the latter, I can understand the suspension.

[go_buccos]

I don't feel like reading the whole DJChaps story over there.

But can someone tell me where the money is coming from, which is owed to Chaps?

Was it Mission's own money that he was giving away?

Or was it someone else's money that Mission was holding?

If it's the former, I can't see how it's fair to suspend Mission, as he's running a free contest with his own money. I feel he should only be suspended if he takes a super-excessive amount of time to pay, to where it's clear he's never going to. By these standards, I should be suspended from PFA for slow paying PFA freeroll $!

If it's the latter, I can understand the suspension.

My understanding is that it was Mission's own money. He has run this contest for years and this is not the first time that payment has not been made promptly...

That said, he does always pay eventually.

Shack does that forum a major disservice with the heavy-handed moderation IMO. Seems like just a big power trip for him...

[tgull]

I don't feel like reading the whole DJChaps story over there.

But can someone tell me where the money is coming from, which is owed to Chaps?

Was it Mission's own money that he was giving away?

Or was it someone else's money that Mission was holding?

If it's the former, I can't see how it's fair to suspend Mission, as he's running a free contest with his own money. I feel he should only be suspended if he takes a super-excessive amount of time to pay, to where it's clear he's never going to. By these standards, I should be suspended from PFA for slow paying PFA freeroll $!

If it's the latter, I can understand the suspension.

The issue was solved a couple days ago. The Administrator paid Chaps, he got another freebie from another site, on to the next forum under the guise he is trying to find work:

"I have sent DJChaps $400 USD through Paypal. We simply had a worse case scenario here where our big winner has a personal situation and would genuinely benefit from promptly receiving cash. The payment that was due to DJChaps is now owed to me. I expect that DJChaps will make a post to confirm this."

[country978]

Did DJChaps and Mission murder each other? Neither of them responded in this thread or have been heard from since. Did Bubbles ever get his $100 back?

[The Boz]

And for those not familiar with Wizard of Vegas, here is type nonsense that goes on over there. Druff has explained it a few times but it’s a place where members cry when they feel slighted and want others suspended. The creepy Wizard and a couple mods, one of which talks about his dream of fucking a paraplegic woman, actually do it all the time. And keep a list of the suspended members going back 14 years for public viewing. Definitely strange shit, like shitting on the floor of a chicken restaurant.

Can you imagine if we were this thinned skin here? Would be a full time job for Druff.

Here is our own house retard Karen Nathan crying just days ago.

[The Boz]

Yes Mission will pay and always has in the past. It’s just this year the “winner” was a broke loser who sniffed out a free roll and joined just for it. As you can see he contributed nothing to the forum other than his desperate attempt to do anything for money, except obviously get clean and a job. Only this year when someone down to begging won did the slow pay become an issue.

Suspending Mission was a slap by the Wizard toward someone who did a lot of work for free for him over the years. But Mission isn’t the first to call him out for exploiting others for nothing over the years. In some creepy way, the perverted Wizard seems to enjoy being able to do this.

Meanwhile Chaps blew through the $400 quickly is on to the next grifting attempt.

[nunbeater]

lol bunch of slow paying cocksuckers