Update on Chinamaniac

[tgull]

I saw in another thread someone asking where Chinamaniac was. I saw this a while video ago, meant to post it but forgot. He is a sports bettor full time and gave up all poker. He talks about his poker career and transition into sports betting, which looks to have been a success. The host asked some tough questions about his methodology on picking prop bets, he seemed skeptical, but China pushed back, good back and forth. There is one particularly awkward exchange about halfway through where China said the host was reading too much into it, or something like that.

I am sure China has his prop bets line up today. Good watch and the comments on his appearance were mixed. I asked Druff if ok to post as I have not seen Chinamaniac post here forever and not sure if there was a falling out or something (there wasn't). He just gave up poker 100%, I remember him making that post several years ago.

Video from late 2023:

[Daly]

Funny - I literally just hit “post” on his prop twitter thread in the FFA WT

I have followed his career closely and am very happy to see his success

Its my understanding he wants to be more public facing and is looking for people to work with him. Ive worked with him in the past and done very well so if you curious I would suggest reaching out.

[garrett]

[simpdog]

China does come back once every 4 years to fleece PFA users on weight loss bets.

[tgull]

Funny - I literally just hit “post” on his prop twitter thread in the FFA WT

I have followed his career closely and am very happy to see his success

Its my understanding he wants to be more public facing and is looking for people to work with him. Ive worked with him in the past and done very well so if you curious I would suggest reaching out.

I honestly thought when he said he gave up poker a few years ago on PFA, I was thinking yeah will last like a couple months. Looks like he completely walked away from the game. I had no idea he started with $100 working in a kitchen. It will be interesting to see if he can keep up his 63% win rate on nearly exclusively prop bets. I can't think of a tougher way to win consistently on, especially if you are betting on individual players.

[Daly]

Funny - I literally just hit “post” on his prop twitter thread in the FFA WT

I have followed his career closely and am very happy to see his success

Its my understanding he wants to be more public facing and is looking for people to work with him. Ive worked with him in the past and done very well so if you curious I would suggest reaching out.

I honestly thought when he said he gave up poker a few years ago on PFA, I was thinking yeah will last like a couple months. Looks like he completely walked away from the game. I had no idea he started with $100 working in a kitchen. It will be interesting to see if he can keep up his 63% win rate on nearly exclusively prop bets. I can't think of a tougher way to win consistently on, especially if you are betting on individual players.

Havent spent a lot of time in the FFA Wagering Thread over the last 8 years I take it?

[tgull]

I honestly thought when he said he gave up poker a few years ago on PFA, I was thinking yeah will last like a couple months. Looks like he completely walked away from the game. I had no idea he started with $100 working in a kitchen. It will be interesting to see if he can keep up his 63% win rate on nearly exclusively prop bets. I can't think of a tougher way to win consistently on, especially if you are betting on individual players.

Havent spent a lot of time in the FFA Wagering Thread over the last 8 years I take it?

At best I am a sporadic sports gambler, so no. I'd rather invest/gamble in the stock market, returns are much better, although the taxes are a killer when you have a big year.

[BetCheckBet]

I’d be interested why he got out of poker? As I understood he was making six figures in limit holdem. Doesn’t seem like he plays at all now. He seemed like a strong player and makes me wonder why he didn’t continue at least at a smaller level

Having said all that I don’t envy anyone who makes a living gambling. Working a job normal job will give you the following.

32-45 paid days off vacation and holidays.
Couple grand a year in benefits
Couple grand a year in matching retirement contributions
Unemployment insurance or long term disability.
And most importantly a sense of safety and security with your work and if you are let go access to severance pay.

This doesn’t even include the fact that you may greatly be impacting yourself through references and limited networking.

Now if you can pull in good money the above doesn’t matter. But if you gotta be making easily 6 figures to make giving up the above worth it.

[Daly]

Havent spent a lot of time in the FFA Wagering Thread over the last 8 years I take it?

At best I am a sporadic sports gambler, so no. I'd rather invest/gamble in the stock market, returns are much better, although the taxes are a killer when you have a big year.

I dont doubt the stock market is next level gaming.

Sharp Prop betting is largely frowned upon because it s possible to have a high winning percentage over a period of time. I have been cut off from dozens of books over the years for exactly this.

[chinamaniac]

Funny - I literally just hit “post” on his prop twitter thread in the FFA WT

I have followed his career closely and am very happy to see his success

Its my understanding he wants to be more public facing and is looking for people to work with him. Ive worked with him in the past and done very well so if you curious I would suggest reaching out.

I honestly thought when he said he gave up poker a few years ago on PFA, I was thinking yeah will last like a couple months. Looks like he completely walked away from the game. I had no idea he started with $100 working in a kitchen. It will be interesting to see if he can keep up his 63% win rate on nearly exclusively prop bets. I can't think of a tougher way to win consistently on, especially if you are betting on individual players.

-When I was posting on NWP from 2004 - 2008 I was working in various kitchens off and on making $15-$20 an hour spending all of my money on liquor and drugs and gambling

-I was a broke loser with no future and I am extremely fortunate I was able to progressively get "cleaner" and turn my life into something

- Had I progressed on the path I was on in 2007-2008 I would for sure be dead by now. Just to make it to 40 years old I would have been like 60-1 to make it that far if a line was set in 2007.

-Shipdachips loaned me $100 with 20 % interest in January of 2009 and I have ran it up higher than I could ever imagine in my wildest dreams

- Just making $30-$50k my first year playing pro in 2009 made me "rich" in the sense that I found something that I loved to do and felt like I could build some type of future

- I walked away from the online game after taking every last penny off the Merge network towards the end of 2018

-I made a few blog style posts on Twitter describing how my transition from poker to sports went. There are a bunch of other threads I have created in the past year if your into reading this type of thing

- Props are easier to beat than major market sides or totals but every market has its challenges year after year with various changes

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[chinamaniac]

Funny - I literally just hit “post” on his prop twitter thread in the FFA WT

I have followed his career closely and am very happy to see his success

Its my understanding he wants to be more public facing and is looking for people to work with him. Ive worked with him in the past and done very well so if you curious I would suggest reaching out.

First off , shoutout to Daly who is a close personal friend whom I have known for close to 30 years.

I only starting handicapping player props because he had mentioned how easy they were 2013-2016 era

I was bored one Saturday while waiting for "Heads Up" poker action on Merge I think in 2016 and I started capping props on a whim and the rest snowballed from there

[country978]

Funny - I literally just hit “post” on his prop twitter thread in the FFA WT

I have followed his career closely and am very happy to see his success

Its my understanding he wants to be more public facing and is looking for people to work with him. Ive worked with him in the past and done very well so if you curious I would suggest reaching out.

Is it true you're looking for people to work with you? I have free time if you are.

[gut]

Have you been doing the "bet every RB yardage total under" futures in the beginning of the season?

[chinamaniac]

Have you been doing the "bet every RB yardage total under" futures in the beginning of the season?

No, I don't like to tie up a lot of $$ in futures but I am sure those are probably profitable

You might be able to bet every UNDER on every RB every week in the NFL and turn a profit blindly betting

[chinamaniac]

Funny - I literally just hit “post” on his prop twitter thread in the FFA WT

I have followed his career closely and am very happy to see his success

Its my understanding he wants to be more public facing and is looking for people to work with him. Ive worked with him in the past and done very well so if you curious I would suggest reaching out.

Is it true you're looking for people to work with you? I have free time if you are.

Don't need any runners right now. But always looking for partners if we can provide each other value somehow

[BetCheckBet]

Props to bottomset and China for creating the best thread on here in the last year.

[Serial Fail]

China was the fuckin' man. He was staking and coaching me in HU Limit Hold Em when Black Friday hit. He was a certified crusher.

[sonatine]

Is it true you're looking for people to work with you? I have free time if you are.

Don't need any runners right now. But always looking for partners if we can provide each other value somehow

(Verse 1)
In the heart of the desert, where the cards were cold,
Lived a gambler named Chinamaniac, a story to be told.
He played poker and blackjack, every game in town,
But Lady Luck ignored him, always letting him down.

(Chorus)
Chinamaniac, he was chasing a dream,
In the neon-lit casinos, where the cards gleam.
He couldn't understand why his fortune was thin,
'Til he hired a mariachi band to sing about him.

(Verse 2)
He said, "Mariachis, follow me, and play your songs so loud,
Sing about my victories, make the crowd so proud.
I need your music, your courage, your flair,
To help me conquer this gambling despair."

(Chorus)
Chinamaniac, with his mariachi crew,
He'd walk into the casino, knowing what to do.
With their songs in the air, and his instincts in sight,
He'd win big every time, in the neon casino's light.

(Verse 3)
Now Chinamaniac, he was rolling in dough,
His fortune grew bigger, with every card he'd throw.
The mariachi band played, their guitars strumming high,
As Chinamaniac's legend reached for the sky.

(Chorus)
Chinamaniac, with his mariachi's song,
He proved that with courage, you can't go wrong.
He trusted his instincts, he followed his fate,
And now he's a legend, with riches so great.

(Verse 4)
In the land of the gamblers, his name will live on,
The man who hired mariachis, until his fortune was drawn.
With a heart full of courage, and a band by his side,
Chinamaniac triumphed, in the game of life.

(Chorus)
Chinamaniac, the gambler who dared,
To trust in his instincts, with mariachi's flair.
He won it all, with a smile on his face,
A legend of riches, in this wild gambling race.

[JMM]

To say China is successful at prop betting would be a massive understatement. He got me into it several years ago and the shit just works.

I don't even like talking to people about it too much because it sounds like you're lying. People like that host in the video, and the comments below the video on YouTube are a good example of it. They can't fathom how someone can be winning the way he's winning, so they assume it's fabricated. It's not.

[monsterj]

I saw in another thread someone asking where Chinamaniac was. I saw this a while video ago, meant to post it but forgot. He is a sports bettor full time and gave up all poker. He talks about his poker career and transition into sports betting, which looks to have been a success. The host asked some tough questions about his methodology on picking prop bets, he seemed skeptical, but China pushed back, good back and forth. There is one particularly awkward exchange about halfway through where China said the host was reading too much into it, or something like that.

I am sure China has his prop bets line up today. Good watch and the comments on his appearance were mixed. I asked Druff if ok to post as I have not seen Chinamaniac post here forever and not sure if there was a falling out or something (there wasn't). He just gave up poker 100%, I remember him making that post several years ago.

Video from late 2023:

I just can't see how there is enough money doing this to make more than a modest income at best.