Possible super user on GGpoker

[BetCheckBet]

Was very skeptical before reading but looks pretty damn bad

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2.../#post58392326

[Pablo]

Was worth the read to see Mason get roasted again and again.

Pablo

[Dan Druff]

So far it looks pretty bad.

If the info posted is real, the guy’s win rate is insane high, he’s making crazy stupid plays (unless he knows the holecards), and he won a tournament, so this probably isn’t chip dumping or a few opponents infected with a screen scraper.

GG hasn’t said anything, and the OP claims GG has admitted there was cheating.

The big question: Why do this at low stakes?

[Dan Druff]

Not possible.

Verified.

Except it had to do with a vulnerability with their “thumbs up/down” functionality (lol), and apparently the cheater only had access to hand equity % and not hole cards.

[BetCheckBet]

Just more evidence how sites do zero to catch cheaters. That even in the most obvious examples they have to rely on the community. I remember way back in 2004 poeple actually believed these sites had algorithms that quickly caught cheaters.

Likely dozens of people have been using this vulnerability for quite some time and only when someone got greedy was it noticed. Wouldn’t be surprised if this vulnerability has been there for ages. Think about it the guy who exploited it was really stupid about how he went about it. But for someone to go to all this trouble and understand expected EV it’s mostly likely someone else passed this on to them after they had exploited the site and taken their money off.

lol at confiscating 30k. He won nearly 50k in a single tournament. If they were legitimate site they’d be launching criminal case into him with authorities . But this will likely be swept under the rug cause sites prefer to hide cheaters as opposed to acknowledging them. If these sites were properly regulated you’d have gaming boards launching huge investigations here.

Finally the fact the site was able to figure this all out in a few hours tells me how blatantly obvious the cheating was yet they did nothing or that they were aware and were trying to keep it quiet.

Also for those that don’t know ggpoker is one of the hardest sites collect hand histories. They purposely obscure them to make it harder to track players. This is supposed to stop things like bum hunting but reality is it makes it much harder for community to catch cheaters.

[BetCheckBet]

Also funny how many guys on twoplustwo seemed convinced he wasn’t cheating. I mean I’m a huge devils advocate around this stuff and it was pretty damn obvious from both stats and hand histories. Just tells you how many suckers are out there. Funny enough limon is one of them.

Also mason totally fucked up the thread and mods should delete his posts

[hesterandeldridge]

Just more evidence how sites do zero to catch cheaters. That even in the most obvious examples they have to rely on the community. I remember way back in 2004 poeple actually believed these sites had algorithms that quickly caught cheaters.

Likely dozens of people have been using this vulnerability for quite some time and only when someone got greedy was it noticed. Wouldn’t be surprised if this vulnerability has been there for ages.

Also lol at confiscating 30k. He won nearly 50k in a single tournament. If they were legitimate site they’d be launching criminal case into him with authorities . But this will likely be swept under the rug cause sites prefer to hide cheaters as opposed to acknowledging them.

Finally the fact the site was able to figure this all out in a few hours tells me how blatantly obvious the cheating was yet they did nothing or that they were aware and were trying to keep it quiet.

Also for those that don’t know ggpoker is one of the hardest sites collect hand histories. They purposely obscure them to make it harder to tract players. This is supposed to stop things like bum hunting but reality is it makes it much harder for community to catch cheaters.

29k was probably what was left in that account .

they will probably spend more money on PR to get their shills to downplay this.

I wonder in the last 25 years of online poker from planet poker, paradise etc etc til now , if this leak was available to be hacked.

someone who did not want to get caught has probably been making money at an acceptable rate this whole time.

[sah_24]

Just more evidence how sites do zero to catch cheaters. That even in the most obvious examples they have to rely on the community. I remember way back in 2004 poeple actually believed these sites had algorithms that quickly caught cheaters.

Likely dozens of people have been using this vulnerability for quite some time and only when someone got greedy was it noticed. Wouldn’t be surprised if this vulnerability has been there for ages. Think about it the guy who exploited it was really stupid about how he went about it. But for someone to go to all this trouble and understand expected EV it’s mostly likely someone else passed this on to them after they had exploited the site and taken their money off.

lol at confiscating 30k. He won nearly 50k in a single tournament. If they were legitimate site they’d be launching criminal case into him with authorities . But this will likely be swept under the rug cause sites prefer to hide cheaters as opposed to acknowledging them. If these sites were properly regulated you’d have gaming boards launching huge investigations here.

Finally the fact the site was able to figure this all out in a few hours tells me how blatantly obvious the cheating was yet they did nothing or that they were aware and were trying to keep it quiet.

Also for those that don’t know ggpoker is one of the hardest sites collect hand histories. They purposely obscure them to make it harder to track players. This is supposed to stop things like bum hunting but reality is it makes it much harder for community to catch cheaters.

Ya just like when the California gaming board sided with Mike Postle ... you are hilariously fucking stupid