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This vaccine needs to be kept at -94F thawed out and used within five days, then after receiving the first dose you must return in three weeks for another dose.
This is made by Pfizer which is known for dick pills which have had side effects.
They claim there no side effects for this vaccine.
Wait until Druff gets the vaccine, after six months, if he has hasn’t grown a second asshole then it might be safe.
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Okay so here's some stats which might surprise you.
There are about 224k deaths from COVID in the US in 2020, according to the CDC.
Of those 224,000 deaths, just 81 have been kids under 15 (almost all of whom had major preexisting conditions).
What about young adults and teens? If you expand that to under 25, there are just 491 total deaths, again almost all people with major preexisting conditions. That's out of about 94 million people in that group!
1,725 people aged 25-34 died from COVID (again, mostly preexisting conditions). So what does that mean? Over 99% of all COVID deaths were people 35+!
How significant is that? People under 35 make up nearly half of the US population, yet they make up less than 1% of all COVID deaths!
It starts escalating quickly after that. What might surprise you is that the 45-54 group -- which encompasses a lot of you (myself included) -- has had 11,740 COVID deaths. That's about 1/5 of the deaths of the ancient 75-84 group! Now, to be fair, there are about 41 million people 45-54, and just 16 million people 75-84 (mostly due to a lot of people not making it to 75 for non-COVID reasons). However, adjusting for population, that means those 45-54 are dying at about 1/13 the rate of those 75-84 from COVID. That's probably a higher rate than you'd think for the 45-54 group.
What does all of this mean?
To me, it means it's time to be honest about the real danger to young people. Aside from those with serious preexisting conditions, they will be fine if they catch COVID. The flu is more deadly for people under 25 than COVID, even considering that there is a flu vaccine which most kids take.
I don't know how to craft policy around this, but we need to start with these basic premises:
- People under 25 should be treated as if they're immune (aside from a few with preexisting conditions)
- People under 35 should be more careful, but also shouldn't fear it, as they usually get a mild case with no permanent damage
- People 35-65 should be a lot more careful, as death and permanent damage becomes a lot more likely, especially for the 45+ group
- People 65+ should be extremely careful, as their chance of having permanent damage or death is much higher
Honestly, I believe the correct decision is to be open and straightforward about this data for all age groups, open a lot more up, and give advice to each age group what is and isn't safe to do (including what you should do if you live with someone older).
Now, if this magic 90% effective vaccine is around the corner, perhaps this all a moot point. But short of eradicating this very soon, I think at the very least the young people should be set free, and maybe they should even be hired more often to do COVID-dangerous jobs which don't require specialty skill. It just seems really silly to keep under-35 people locked down, that they're almost half the population and make up fewer than 1% of the deaths.
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ekly/index.htm
Druff was following MedCram back when we were trying to get a handle on the virus in March April
Time to revisit for Pfizer and the myriad of other vaccines. It’s the gold standard for me. This doctor has lots of SoCal COVID experience now too.
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does the news ever show footage of overwhelmed hospitals etc? like virus war porn footage?
i literally havent watched the news in years, i have no idea.
No. They’ll occasionally interview doctors discussing it, but even getting a patient on camera is likely a HIPAA violation. I haven’t ever seen them shooting ER room entrances or anything, let alone showing patients admitted.Quote:
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Originally Posted by BCRNo. They’ll occasionally interview doctors discussing it, but even getting a patient on camera is likely a HIPAA violation. I haven’t ever seen them shooting ER room entrances or anything, let alone showing patients admitted.Quote:
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huge mistake.
i saw some footage of the mass burials in nyc just from local sources and it was fucking freaky. and we all saw footage of the bodies on the floor in wuhan waiting rooms etc.
to exclude footage of our hospitals feels irresponsible.
A lot of the "overwhelmed hospitals" thing is being overblown.
Are some in highly affected areas very busy? Yes. Are the doctors and nurses exhausted? Yes. Are some getting close to capacity? Yes.
However, we aren't anywhere close to the point where people in danger are being sent home to die, like they were in Italy in the spring. Even if certain hospitals become full, they will instruct people, "Drive 10 miles down the road to the other hospital, they have openings", and that will be that.
COVID isn't like a heart attack or stroke. It doesn't hit you suddenly, and doesn't require super-urgent care. If you can drive to a hospital 5 miles away for COVID symptoms (or someone else is driving you), then you can go 15, 25, even 100 miles away if necessary. It's not ideal, but those extra minutes or hours aren't going to make a difference, unless you were dumb enough to wait until the very last moments before death before choosing to go to the hospital.
Also, during the hysteria in the spring, emergency secondary hospitals were built up, then closed back down. But they could get going again fairly quickly if necessary.
In any case, it really isn't a concern regarding getting a hospital bed if you have COVID.
The NYC thing wasn't quite what it appeared to be.Quote:
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huge mistake.
i saw some footage of the mass burials in nyc just from local sources and it was fucking freaky. and we all saw footage of the bodies on the floor in wuhan waiting rooms etc.
to exclude footage of our hospitals feels irresponsible.
Many of these were old people feeling non-COVID-related symptoms which would normally send them to the hospital, but they were terrified to attempt to go because of the COVID danger. So they stayed home, and it turned out that was a
:baddecision
Others didn't understand COVID well (it was still relatively new at the time), and didn't seek treatment until it was too late and they died.
This wasn't a case of people being left to die at home because hospitals couldn't see them. That never happened.
thanks for clearing that up ftpdruff
I've seen tons of news footage from icus. Unfortunately they only show it when it's too late (April, may and now).Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by BCR
huge mistake.
i saw some footage of the mass burials in nyc just from local sources and it was fucking freaky. and we all saw footage of the bodies on the floor in wuhan waiting rooms etc.
to exclude footage of our hospitals feels irresponsible.
How's Oklahoma doing with it's ICU bed availability? El Paso?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffThe NYC thing wasn't quite what it appeared to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Many of these were old people feeling non-COVID-related symptoms which would normally send them to the hospital, but they were terrified to attempt to go because of the COVID danger. So they stayed home, and it turned out that was a
:baddecision
Others didn't understand COVID well (it was still relatively new at the time), and didn't seek treatment until it was too late and they died.
This wasn't a case of people being left to die at home because hospitals couldn't see them. That never happened.
Has anyone been turned away and told to go home, despite needing to be hospitalized?
I haven't seen a single report of this happening.
Keep in mind that Oklahoma City is 200 miles from Dallas. Even in the worst-case scenario there (where they absolutely run out of beds in the entire metro area), people could be sent 200 miles south to Dallas, without any harm to them.
It simply isn't the crisis it's being portrayed to be in the media.
When the first person is told, "You need treatment, but we have no beds for you, and nowhere you can go within driving distance to find one. Go home and die", please let me know.
NYC had this same thing in April.
Media screamed "OMG OMG OMG hospitals full, people being turned away, this is going to be the next Italy!!!!!111"
Turned out that people were simply being sent to other nearby hospitals which did have room, and that not one person who needed care was denied it.
All total bullshit. Ohio has a .02% death rate and 100% fear and control rate.
OhioQuote:
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Total Infected...282,528.
Total deaths...5,736.
:wrong
I doubt we will ever get to the point people are sent home to die. Most local hospitals set up makeshift hospitals last year to deal with overflow. It was rarely used. I think they’ll be used this winter. I assume if we can keep it to certain states being hit harder than others, we will have the ability to shift medical professionals around.Quote:
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There seems to be a lot of people willing to go help when there is a crisis in an area. The real nightmare comes if we are ever on fire everywhere, at which point there is a good chance you’ll be being treated by some medical assistant and we will have a lot of gurneys sitting in hallways. We will certainly have people dying before they even see a doctor. That’s already happened. That’s just the nature of illness in general. It overtakes people at varying speeds. Many people don’t go to ER until it’s dire.
I’d be shocked if they ever send people home to die, but dying in a hospital hallway rather than at home is little solace.
My mother was at the hospital with her husband as he had some follow up for a knee replacement surgery. Idk if it was a doctor appointment or PT. She said like 5 ambulances came in the hour she was sitting there waiting all with the guys suited up. She asked the receptionist if that was normal or Covid and the lady said most lately have been Covid. If I was dire, I’m calling an ambulance as triage always prioritize those coming in via ambulance. Like if I fucked up and waited too long and felt in trouble, I wouldn’t hesitate, and I’ve never called an ambulance.
So you’re afraid? 100% means you too.Quote:
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Me, I take it seriously, yet golfed twice. Ate out twice. Drank at night outside when it was beautiful earlier this week. Went shopping yesterday. There isn’t a single thing I’m not allowed to do. There are things I opt out of by choice. That’s not control, that’s a personal choice of risk mitigation.
How are you being controlled and why are you so afraid? 100%? What weren’t you allowed to do this week?
I don’t know what kind of pussies you hang with. I remarked a few times this week to friends you’d never know there was a problem. Particularly early in week when it was beautiful. Everything was jammed.
You’ve seen live patients? I’ve seen people on Facebook and shit from a hospital bed talking about it. In that case, they are violating their own HIPAA rights. What I haven’t seen is like the local reporter masked up in ER waiting rooms, which are jammed atm, and putting people on TV who haven’t signed off on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rum dickI've seen tons of news footage from icus. Unfortunately they only show it when it's too late (April, may and now).Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
I have my first colonoscopy ever scheduled for January. I wonder if they will cancel it on me. Right now they're still allowed to happen.
California hasn't been slammed though. It got semi-bad in the late summer, then improved some, and has sat fairly flat for awhile. A little worse now, but nothing like the midwest. The numbers look bad until you adjust for population. For example, population-wise, California is 50 North Dakotas.
Was that the earliest you could get in? I can understand why I am so much more positive about Obamacare than you if so. I could get in for a colonoscopy next week if I wanted. If it’s possible to move it up, I certainly would. I woke up this morning and caught 15 minutes of radio and you were talking about having a family history.Quote:
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