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    Why is this even an issue? That uncle fucker said a bunch of times he doesn't care about the money. Send that shit to Pickering.
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    you're more consumed with accumulating wealth than achieving spiritual enlightenment
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    Getting a little surf and turf tonight. In my world that is Sea Bass with a nice lobster tail on the side. And grilled asparagus. It's nice having money.

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    Money should be donated to Hillary Clinton Presidential Campaign under Martin's name.

     
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    Unless Druff is pockling the money for himself, I don't see an issue. There's no buyin, it's not a sweepstakes, roll it into the next freeroll or something.

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    and be done with him!
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    Hello, esteemed users of PFA.

    I have read your arguments, and I still remain unmoved.

    I don't ask for much here. I run this system at a loss, allow people (including Pockles) to insult and degrade me, and try my hardest to act fairly and responsibly with everyone.

    However, when an asshole approaches me like an ingrate and DEMANDS his money in the form of an insult, that's where I have to draw the line. The freeroll money isn't a right -- it's a gift to the community, given by our listeners on behalf of the radio show.

    I will only send such prizes if the winner asks in at least a semi-respectful manner. Over 700 winners across 4 years, and we've never had this problem until now.

    Dr. P can receive the $40 at any time, provided he asks in a normal, respectful manner. He doesn't have to kiss ass or grovel. He just needs to ask in a similar fashion to the other 700 people -- without insults, degradation, or demands. That is hardly unreasonable.

    I understand that some of you still disagree with this decision. That is fine. I don't expect everyone to agree with everything I say and do.

    If for some reason this issue is a showstopper for you, and you can't move forward on this site after the horrible thing I've done to the Good Doctor, then allow me to politely lead you toward the door...





    Fuck you very much, and good night.

     
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      gimmick: word is bond... simple as that
      
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      Starbucks Spunk Bucket: ok i agree if he never asked nicely but instead made a stupid thread
      
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    I don't give a fuck either way but it isn't your money to withhold.

    The crying about running this place at a loss is getting old too. Reminding us once a week would suffice.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooh View Post
    I don't give a fuck either way but it isn't your money to withhold.

    The crying about running this place at a loss is getting old too. Reminding us once a week would suffice.

    I agree with this 1000%. Druff always says the donaters can do whatever they want with the money they donate. Druff is acting like this is his money. Perhaps the people who donated should weigh in?

    smiflorida $21
    SlowRoll $50
    snowtracks $6
    Shizzmoney $3
    Hozer11 $5

     
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    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky View Post
    Talk about letting personal issues interfere with business.

    I disagree with this ruling, and it sets a very bad precedent of "You won...... if I like you, and you behave as I say.....otherwise fuck off".

    He either won or didn't. Slippery slope imo.

    I believe 100% you slow paid him to get a rise. I believe he behaved how you expected. I believe this is Todd playing puppet master to a known hot head.

    Pay this member (in good standing at the time of winning), then ban him for his behavior after the fact (disrespecting the donors/site/owner).......but not paying him is BUNK.

    If you win the lotto, your winnings arent withheld for being a dickhead.

    I'm disappointed in you Todd.
    You must have misunderstood my post.

    I am not refusing to pay him.

    I am refusing to pay him for as long as he's going to ask in a rude and insulting manner.

    Let's say a local restaurant had a contest to win a free dinner there, and I won.

    If I walked in and said, "Fuck this place, your restaurant sucks, the owner is a fucking asshole, and the customers are a bunch of losers. Now give me the free meal I won!", they would kick me out and give me NOTHING.

    Same thing here, except I'm not kicking Marty out and I'm not refusing to pay him.

    I'm just saying that I am not sending him a prize he won from a FREE contest here, unless he approaches me like a human being and asks for it normally. If he can't do that, then it's his fault if it doesn't come.


    how about this...


    kiss my ass you fucking nerd

     
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      Muck Ficon: How about this....get fucked by your uncle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    You must have misunderstood my post.

    I am not refusing to pay him.

    I am refusing to pay him for as long as he's going to ask in a rude and insulting manner.

    Let's say a local restaurant had a contest to win a free dinner there, and I won.

    If I walked in and said, "Fuck this place, your restaurant sucks, the owner is a fucking asshole, and the customers are a bunch of losers. Now give me the free meal I won!", they would kick me out and give me NOTHING.

    Same thing here, except I'm not kicking Marty out and I'm not refusing to pay him.

    I'm just saying that I am not sending him a prize he won from a FREE contest here, unless he approaches me like a human being and asks for it normally. If he can't do that, then it's his fault if it doesn't come.


    how about this...


    kiss my ass you fucking nerd


    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    As much of a drunken, rude, shit-show that Marty is, he met the criteria, won the tournament fairly, and is exercising his right to Free Speech and hasnt harmed anyone.



    Pay him the $40. Its up to him how he decides to behave and people are free to appreciate his behavior or ignore him.
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    I would probably do the same thing .... make him wait . But whats the point of making him ask in a polite manner .
    As soon as he gets paid it will just revert back to being a dick head . Ban him and move on . Unless you like the
    drama . And I agree that asking the members who made the actual donations to make the decision as to when
    to pay him . Ive seen in the past where they say who can win their donated money so it makes sense they should decide this .

    I'm for paying him after one full month of complete silence .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooh View Post
    I don't give a fuck either way but it isn't your money to withhold.

    The crying about running this place at a loss is getting old too. Reminding us once a week would suffice.
    Got a "Notice of Class Action Settlement" regarding PayPal today. Swore I would never use that POS. I guess back in the day of Neteller and all that shit I went to the dark side. Keep my fucking money. Watching eBay dying past couple of days fills my dark heart with gladness.

    Anyway, it caused me to wonder how much all the banking costs Druff. All the freeroll payments and disbursement of escrowed bets. The "fuss and bother" (Winnie the Pooh, amirite?) would annoy me. The book keeping and time. I'd never do it. However, to some degree it is the life blood of this place.

    I did have to ship a losing bet with another member to Druff. I used Bitcoin and included a Bitcoin risk premium. Why should he get stuck cause JSearles owned my soul?

    Anyway, all this is an aspect that is easily overlooked around here. Gotta give Druff props for his efforts - at the very least a little respect.

    What's wrong with you guys?

     
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    imho Marty would rather have you owe him the money for a while so he can whine about it...


    when everyone gets tired of this episode he will ask politely for his money, but first he want to have his fun--fun that many of the rest of us think is jewvenile...


    so spoil his sick fun by paying him his money...and suspend him from freerolls so you don't have a repeat of this episode.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muck Ficon View Post
    Why is this even an issue? That uncle fucker said a bunch of times he doesn't care about the money. Send that shit to Pickering.

     
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    If a casino withheld someones freeroll prize because they were disrespectful to the house (but not to a point where they were banned or prohibited from engaging in the freeroll), that behavior would be skewered on the front page here and probably be the subject of 7 straight hours of mockery on the radio show.

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    You must have misunderstood my post.

    I am not refusing to pay him.

    I am refusing to pay him for as long as he's going to ask in a rude and insulting manner.

    Let's say a local restaurant had a contest to win a free dinner there, and I won.

    If I walked in and said, "Fuck this place, your restaurant sucks, the owner is a fucking asshole, and the customers are a bunch of losers. Now give me the free meal I won!", they would kick me out and give me NOTHING.

    Same thing here, except I'm not kicking Marty out and I'm not refusing to pay him.

    I'm just saying that I am not sending him a prize he won from a FREE contest here, unless he approaches me like a human being and asks for it normally. If he can't do that, then it's his fault if it doesn't come.


    how about this...


    kiss my ass you fucking nerd
    Way to ride the wave of support, not. This is a confirmation of Druffs position and a legit forfeit of the $40. I'd say Druff just do what ever you think is best with the $40, you've spent enough time on it. If i can get tilted from a couple off hand Djchaps comments. What's it like to deal with Tyde's constant no holds barred personal attacks? Maybe we were taking for granted the effort he puts in these payouts. Druff don't get this pissed for nothing and Marty trolls like no other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    If a casino withheld someones freeroll prize because they were disrespectful to the house (but not to a point where they were banned or prohibited from engaging in the freeroll), that behavior would be skewered on the front page here and probably be the subject of 7 straight hours of mockery on the radio show.
    Do as little as possible, and that unwillingly, for is better to receive a slight reprimand than to perform an arduous task.

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    If a casino or online card room did this to a member and said they were shafting them because "They wrote mean emails and insulted our staff." it would be front page news of pokerfraudalert.com

    The money was donated by people other than yourself and he can ask for it, or demand it, in whatever fashion he wants. Pay him and bar him from participation in any future freerolls. Since it isn't your money, I don't think you should have the right to retroactively add requirements on manners when asking for the money.

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    Upon further contemplation, I think I recall a tournament on Martin's site in which a winner (408, maybe?) was denied the ability to claim his prize and Martin used his power to award the money to Delaware... so... fuck him, Druff, keep the money and donate it.

     
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