Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout
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my heart is sinking already knowing I'm going to spend way too much time later explaining things about active and passive voice, dependent and independent clauses, etc. Why couldn't you just have paid attention in English class in the first place? And yet, I can only blame myself for getting involved. There's a lesson here I need to learn at some point...My second post in the thread explains that I am of course aware that everyone is a singular collective. The problem for me arises with the adverb about and how that makes it a dependent clause that modifies a plural subject.
In this reworded sentence would you still use is and if so, why?
These gif things being posted about by everyone are so much fun.
You wouldn't because the adverb becomes more clear and the subject is obviously plural.
back later.
You're okay with GIF things? That fucks everything up. GIF is an acronym and should be capitalized and things should not be in the sentencemy heart is sinking already knowing I'm going to spend way too much time later explaining things about active and passive voice, dependent and independent clauses, etc. Why couldn't you just have paid attention in English class in the first place? And yet, I can only blame myself for getting involved. There's a lesson here I need to learn at some point...
back later.
here's the question.
Neither, if you are also talking about the acronym GIF, which should be capitalized.Which is correct and why?
(A) "These Gif things that everyone IS posting about are so much fun..."
OR
(B) "These GIF things that everyone ARE posting about are so much fun.
These GIF things, which everyone is posting about, are so much fun.
However, as we'll see below, its still awkward and could be written in many different ways, and probably should be. Also, lack of commas confuse the issue a bit.
The "GIF things" are not doing anything. "is" is from the verb "to be", which is a linking verb, and not an action verb. Forget about nouns and verbs for a minute, though, and think in terms of subject and predicate. That's what is important here.
Let's define clause. A clause contains a subject and a predicate. If a sentence is the main grouping or words we use in English, clauses are the next level down. Some are independent clauses, meaning they could very well stand on their own as a sentence, and some are dependent, or subordinate clauses, meaning they aren't really enough of a complete thought to make sense on its own. Both have subjects and predicates tho, that's the main thing to remember here. Also, since both clauses have subjects and predicates, there IS NO REASON FOR THE 2 CLAUSES TO HAVE THE SAME CASE, VOICE, NUMBER, OR ANY OF THAT. That's the crux, and that's where you seem to be getting fucked up.
Here's my first explanation.
EDITED CUZ I WAS WRONG: Now you are talking about something completely different. Now you have a sentence that's only a single clause, but with a compound subject. The rule there is completely different. Since you are adding up the subjects, yes indeed, the subject needs to be plural. You are correct, and thank you for correcting me. Keep in mind, tho, the original example has 2 clauses, none of which have compound subjects.This is oversimplification.
...Take this example and consider in the sentence in question that there are two subjects: The dog is being annoying. The cats are being annoying. Everyone is being annoying. -- combined: The dog, the cats, and everyone are being annoying. Do you not see how if you changed ARE to IS it would leave out the other nouns? Are the gif things not being posted about?
No, because they are separate clauses, there is no need at all for them to match. I explained this above. Srsly is correct, as he is throughout the thread.It can't be both though. If one is plural, they both have to be? I went through this step too.
Your first sentence is incorrect and awkward. At the very least, the part "everyone are posting" needs to be "everyone is posting". Why not go with something like "Everyone is posting such fun GIFs," or "Everyone is posting GIFs, and they're so much fun!" The sentences read better if I use the contraction "Everyone's." Everyone's posting such fun GIFs! Some shit like that.
Your second sentence, "GIF is correct not Gif but is should be GIFs, not GIF things", I totally agree with. Acronyms should be capitalized, and 'GIF things' sounds weird. Again, tho, it wasn't necessarily grammatically wrong.
I wouldn't say that, no, but vaughn did, and that's the sentence we were working with.
No. No need.
As above, I'd never say it, but it's not necessarily incorrect, just shitty-sounding.
Did I miss anything?
Last edited by Crowe Diddly; 10-30-2017 at 05:06 PM.
Let's simmer down here. I'm not reading a paper on the subject. The fact that things is in the sentence mucks it all up.here's the question.
Neither, if you are also talking about the acronym GIF, which should be capitalized. These GIF things that everyone is posting about are so much fun.
However, as we'll see below, its still awkward and could be written in many different ways, and probably should be.
The "GIF things" are not doing anything. "is" is from the verb "to be", which is a linking verb, and not an action verb. Forget about nouns and verbs for a minute, though, and think in terms of subject and predicate. That's what is important here.
Let's define clause. A clause contains a subject and a predicate. If a sentence is the main grouping or words we use in English, clauses are the next level down. Some are independent clauses, meaning they could very well stand on their own as a sentence, and some are dependent, or subordinate clauses, meaning they aren't really enough of a complete thought to make sense on its own. Both have subjects and predicates tho, that's the main thing to remember here. Also, since both clauses have subjects and predicates, there IS NO REASON FOR THEM TO HAVE THE SAME CASE, VOICE, NUMBER, OR ANY OF THAT. That's the crux, and that's where you seem to be getting fucked up.
Here's my first explanation.
Now you are talking about something completely different. Now you have a sentence that's only a single clause, but with a compound subject. The rule there is completely different. If all the subjects are singular, the verb would be the singular form. If all plural, then plural. As written, with singular and plural subjects, the default is to use the number of the subject closer to the verb. In that sentence as written, it would be grammatically correct to say "The dog, the cats, and everyone is being annoying." However, any good English teacher or editor would tell you that if it sounds awkward, it IS awkward, so write it a different way. How about "Everyone is being annoying, including the dogs and cats." When you are not sure of the grammar, or if it sound right but weird, write it some way else.This is oversimplification.
...Take this example and consider in the sentence in question that there are two subjects: The dog is being annoying. The cats are being annoying. Everyone is being annoying. -- combined: The dog, the cats, and everyone are being annoying. Do you not see how if you changed ARE to IS it would leave out the other nouns? Are the gif things not being posted about?
No, because they are separate clauses, there is no need at all for them to match. I explained this above. Srsly is correct, as he is throughout the thread.It can't be both though. If one is plural, they both have to be? I went through this step too.
Your first sentence is incorrect and awkward. At the very least, the part "everyone are posting" needs to be "everyone is posting". Why not go with something like "Everyone is posting such fun GIFs," or "Everyone is posting GIFs, and they're so much fun!" The sentences read better if I use the contraction "Everyone's." Everyone's posting such fun GIFs! Some shit like that.
Your second sentence, "GIF is correct not Gif but is should be GIFs, not GIF things", I totally agree with. Acronyms should be capitalized, and 'GIF things' sounds weird. Again, tho, it wasn't necessarily grammatically wrong.
I wouldn't say that, no, but vaughn did, and that's the sentence we were working with.
No. No need.
As above, I'd never say it, but it's not necessarily incorrect, just shitty-sounding.
Did I miss anything?
I'm throwing this entire case out and hope you both get help down the line.... btw i think GIFs are doing something
shut up, garrett.
Everyone are wrong and I is right.
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Limitles is only in this thread to lead you all to some point where he can interject something grammatically preferred in Canada but not U.S.A. And why the Canadian way is correct and far superior. 100 percent.
obv a negative rep there bombastic book wormshut up, garrett.
When suffering from mental illness and substance abuse, there are understandably more pressing concerns than speaking the Queen's English.
Any day you you little ponceWhen suffering from mental illness and substance abuse, there are understandably more pressing concerns than speaking the Queen's English.
Look back Ethel, I didn't write that crap in the first place. I wouldn't say GIF things as I know what a GIF is.
Beat That Nigga Ass SrslySirius!!!
He looks GIF horses in the mouth. He's also a bitch.
And everyone was not the intended subject
Because things shouldn't have been there it cannot be the subject. It can equal the subject but take out GIFs and whatNo, you are overcomplicating things. It actually IS simple. The verb in a clause must match its subject. No more, no less.
Who is posting? Everyone. By rule (look it up if you like) everyone is treated as a singular pronoun. "is" is the verb, since it is singular.
The gif things are fun. Things =subject, gif is a modifier or part of the subject. Things ARE fun.
luck will you have conveying your story?
we agree that "GIF things" sounds shitty. I fucking said that. But its not grammatically incorrect. I already tried to tell you this but you don't like to read.Because things shouldn't have been there it cannot be the subject. It can equal the subject but take out GIFs and what
luck will you have conveying your story?
what about everyone being the subject?we agree that "GIF things" sounds shitty. I fucking said that. But its not grammatically incorrect. I already tried to tell you this but you don't like to read.
It is grammatically incorrect and can lead some down the path of wrongitivitywe agree that "GIF things" sounds shitty. I fucking said that. But its not grammatically incorrect. I already tried to tell you this but you don't like to read.
Last edited by limitles; 10-30-2017 at 02:56 PM. Reason: 5th edit, thinking of ways BGC will die
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