Time to get on the TRUMP train

[Henry]

hongkonger go take a walk or something, you're embarrassing me

[Draymond]

LOL. You just are not very bright. The reason the EC exisits is so two or three states based on population do not control the election. You would need a constitutional amendment to get rid of the EC, 3/4 of the states to vote in unison for such an amendment. So you would need states like Montana, Idaho and Alabama voting to concede their power to say New York and California.

Do you know how idiotic you sound? I know you get most of your news from Facebook, but fucking A, nobody has a right to be this stupid and have basic freedoms.

Listen shitstain, I don't even have a facebook account.

I didn't say it was realistic for the EC to go I said it SHOULD go. You don't know the difference, making you the retard.

You really need to sit down with a professional and talk about your anger issues. Do it before Obamacare is repealed so you at least get it paid for.

[BAGGINS]

For those of you who won betting Trump, aside from the money did anything feel particularly good about winning this particular bet?

For me it was the aspect of the transfer of money from a possible Hillary Libtard supporter (or someone who at least had the faith to bet on that limping pony) straight into my pockets. Winning a bet NEVER felt so good!

I'd be curious to hear any other perspectives.

[hongkonger]

Listen shitstain, I don't even have a facebook account.

I didn't say it was realistic for the EC to go I said it SHOULD go. You don't know the difference, making you the retard.

You really need to sit down with a professional and talk about your anger issues. Do it before Obamacare is repealed so you at least get it paid for.

No anger issues, but I admit I have a low tolerance for stupidity.

I don't have Obamacare.

[DJ_Chaps]

i'LL BE HONEST, NOT SURE HOW TRUMP FILLS THE GAP IN POP VOTE WITH MICHIGAN, EVEN THO ITS THE TINIEST LITTLE DIFFERENCE RIGHT NOW. BUT THAT IS THE PROJECTION.

[blake]

You really need to sit down with a professional and talk about your anger issues. Do it before Obamacare is repealed so you at least get it paid for.

re Obamacare, they can't fully repeal it without 60 senate votes, which they don't have, but they can pretty much end the way it works with just 50.

weird thing is now i'm reading that they might not even try to repeal obamacare without a viable alternative in place. they really want something to cover people with pre-existing conditions. but they can't get something else in place without 60 senate votes, which they don't have.

will be interesting to see if this is the first thing president trump backs out of. well, second, cause that wall idea was always ridiculous.

[BAGGINS]

You really need to sit down with a professional and talk about your anger issues. Do it before Obamacare is repealed so you at least get it paid for.

No anger issues, but I admit I have a low tolerance for stupidity.

I don't have Obamacare.

If you have a low tolerance for stupidity then how can you live with yourself?

Or are you really a bot created by one of George Soros' entry level programmers?

[Draymond]

For those of you who won betting Trump, aside from the money did anything feel particularly good about winning this particular bet?

For me it was the aspect of the transfer of money from a possible Hillary Libtard supporter (or someone who at least had the faith to bet on that limping pony) straight into my pockets. Winning a bet NEVER felt so good!

I'd be curious to hear any other perspectives.

I know Sidedish pocketed $3K from HongMonger. Hopefully he posts all the shit he bought from that bet (that HongMonger paid for).

[DJ_Chaps]

I've made comments on here and Twitter/Facebook about the election being a rejection of the "media/Hollywood elite", and then the leftists respond with something like, "Trump was a super-rich TV reality star and casino owner. How exactly is he not the Hollywood elite?"

Ah, clever! Got me!

But they misunderstand the term "media/Hollywood elite".

Being a member of the media doesn't necessarily make you a member of the media elite.

Being involved in the entertainment industry, even if rich, doesn't make you a member of the Hollywood elite.

The term "elite" here does not refer to wealth, but rather these people being in a position of mass influence, and attempting to conspire in large numbers to use that influence to shape politics and elections. It's even worse when they do this under the guise of neutrality. The SNL debate parodies, highly biased pieces which were falsely presented as supposedly making fun of both candidates, are a good example of this.

The rich Hollywood super-liberal isn't even necessarily a member of the Hollywood elite. If I never hear about their politics, and if they do not attempt to insert their politics into their work, then they are not taking advantage of their position. I don't begrudge rich and famous people who happen to have different political views than mine. I begrudge the ones who think their fame gives them a right to shape politics via their influence.

What about Fox News and Breitbart? Are they the media elite? They're definitely large media companies, and they definitely present biased news stories under the guise of being unbiased. However, they aren't the media elite, but rather the media minority. They exist and thrive due to such a dearth of media supporting the right wing point of view. These companies are taking advantage of the backlash against the media elite, but can't really be considered the media elite themselves, since they are breaking from the common media bias.

Adrian Gonzalez of the Dodgers is not in the media nor associated with Hollywood, but he set a great example regarding how to handle controversial political views. Adrian is highly into his Mexican culture, and hates Donald Trump for that reason. At the same time, Adrian Gonzalez is super-rich and famous. When the Dodgers stayed in a Trump hotel in Chicago, Adrian quietly opted out and stayed by himself across the street. He did not tell the media about this. When it leaked out months later, he confirmed that he did this, but simply said it was for "personal reasons", and declined to discuss Trump or anything political. He said that he only wanted to talk about baseball -- the reason we are paying attention to him in the first place.

That's how all celebrities should behave. Unless we are tuning into them specifically to hear about politics (think Rush Limbaugh or Rachel Maddow), they should keep their politics to themselves and not lecture us as if they know better.

The Dixie Chicks, who ruined their careers due to such haughty lecturing, later came out with an album sarcastically entitled, "Shut Up and Sing". The irony is that, while they were attempting to mock their former fans' negative reaction to them, the album title represented what they actually should have done.

If we're watching or reading your work to receive unbiased news, provide unbiased news.

If we're watching you because we enjoy your entertainment work, then entertain and don't lecture.

If we're watching you because we want to laugh, provide the funniest comedy possible, and don't use it as a vehicle to give backdoor lectures about politics.

If we're watching or listening to you because we like your music, shut up and sing.

You are no better than the rest of us because you're rich and famous. We don't want or need to hear your political views, nor should you be talking down to us.

These idiot celebrities just don't get it. So many of them are whining about "ignorant and racist" America right now, rather than looking in the mirror and realizing they're part of the reason Donald Trump won.

So entertainment should be devoid of politics?

HELL NO, BUT AN ACT SHOULD NEVER JUST STOP AND TURN INTO A POLITICAL RANT/RALLY/SPEECH.

[Draymond]

You really need to sit down with a professional and talk about your anger issues. Do it before Obamacare is repealed so you at least get it paid for.

re Obamacare, they can't fully repeal it without 60 senate votes, which they don't have, but they can pretty much end the way it works with just 50.

weird thing is now i'm reading that they might not even try to repeal obamacare without a viable alternative in place. they really want something to cover people with pre-existing conditions. but they can't get something else in place without 60 senate votes, which they don't have.

will be interesting to see if this is the first thing president trump backs out of. well, second, cause that wall idea was always ridiculous.

It can be de-funded in committee. It's over. With that said, people with pre-existing conditions will still be covered as they should. But the law as it stands now, it will be gutted and unrecognizable in a couple years. It was a failed policy from day 1, and it probably cost Clinton the election when premiums reset November 1st.

[blake]

re Obamacare, they can't fully repeal it without 60 senate votes, which they don't have, but they can pretty much end the way it works with just 50.

weird thing is now i'm reading that they might not even try to repeal obamacare without a viable alternative in place. they really want something to cover people with pre-existing conditions. but they can't get something else in place without 60 senate votes, which they don't have.

will be interesting to see if this is the first thing president trump backs out of. well, second, cause that wall idea was always ridiculous.

It can be de-funded in committee. It's over. With that said, people with pre-existing conditions will still be covered as they should. But the law as it stands now, it will be gutted and unrecognizable in a couple years. It was a failed policy from day 1, and it probably cost Clinton the election when premiums reset November 1st.

making sure people with pre-existing conditions are covered only works if the rest of the law is in place too (i.e., mandating insurance for healthy people). otherwise, insurers would have to raise the rates on the rest of us by 1,000,000%. that part cannot be kept in unless they come up with a whole new law, which they will need democrat support for

[MrTickle]

[Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe]

explain how Obamacare works: I have insurance from my job, but one of my good friends who is a bartender/pot dealer doesn't have insurance. He is in his 20's and told me that he had to pay a penalty for not having insurance when he did his taxes, i wanna say it was 275 dollars but I'm not sure, i know it wasn't huge but still

what's the point?

the guy had no insurance because he said 'fuck it' and so now he has to pay a penalty... but still not insured

[Lord of the Fraud]

Paragraph from book written in 1998 by Richard Rorty called Achieving our Country.


This isn't fake btw. Just a man with great understanding on what was coming.

[Lord of the Fraud]

The full quote from that certain part of his book written 18 years ago if anybody cares.

[blake]

explain how Obamacare works: I have insurance from my job, but one of my good friends who is a bartender/pot dealer doesn't have insurance. He is in his 20's and told me that he had to pay a penalty for not having insurance when he did his taxes, i wanna say it was 275 dollars but I'm not sure, i know it wasn't huge but still

what's the point?

the guy had no insurance because he said 'fuck it' and so now he has to pay a penalty... but still not insured

the system is designed to make sure people with pre-existing conditions can get affordable insurance. since it will cost insurance companies a lot more to pay for their health care, insurance companies need as many healthy people as it can get to sign up for insurance too. the idea is that insurance companies would make money on the young and healthy people, while losing money on those with pre-existing conditions.

the way the government forces healthy people to get insurance is to fine them (on their taxes) if they don't have it. for some people, the fine might still be less than what they would pay for insurance premiums though.

also designed to make health care more affordable for poor people through subsidies

[sonatine]

Now he gets all the super baller top secret classified info

And with it comes the end of all his lofty ambitions. Its easy to protest things like the Iran deal when you have no idea what was bargained for in the other 95% of that iceberg. Now he has to deal with what Hillary had to deal with; explaining things to people you cannot legally explain.

[hongkonger]

The full quote from that certain part of his book written 18 years ago if anybody cares.

I'm out of rep but +1 million for this. The Dems lost because they got in bed with everyone screwing over the average Americans. They tried to take that advantage away from the a Republicans and for a while it worked (Bill Clinton, Obama) but that era is over. Bernie was our best hope. RIP America

[Tegnation22]

Got a first hand look at the anti-trump protesters here in Boston last night.

People of all color were chanting "Fuck Trump"..."He's not my president"..."white America is racist"...and a bunch of crazy shit. Signs that read amerikkka, fuck america, kill trump just real crazy shit.

When Obama won both times I certainly don't recall crazy protests from the supposed racist whites that a black man was in charge. Truly a disgrace what I saw in person last night. I decided to hang around for a few hours and watch these savages. Most were college students (Harvard, BC, Boston University, Northeastern, M.I.T) that were so up in arms. SJWs, hipsters, minorities, anti war hippies they were all involved. Typical boston left wing elitists.

The best I saw was when a group of them attempted to burn a flag. These 2 guys, one white one black, came.out of nowhere to stop it and grab the flag. They looked ex military.

America is about to be great again.

[FPS_Russia]

Palin wtf