Didn't see this one coming. I thought Nash would go to Toronto or New York if he left Phoenix.
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/07/04/s...s=iref:nbahpt1
Didn't see this one coming. I thought Nash would go to Toronto or New York if he left Phoenix.
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/07/04/s...s=iref:nbahpt1
Originally Posted by Baron Von Strucker
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WOW
I didn't see this one coming, either.
While Nash is a great player, I don't know how he'll fit with this team.
He's also going to be 39 in February. While he looked good this past season, eventually age takes its toll, especially in basketball.
Would be nice if they could manage to get Dwight Howard, because Bynum is just too inconsistent, and they need another legitimate superstar with Kobe aging (and playing since age 18).
Worst than a Dodger signing...Senoir citizen basketball time...
He's also going to be 39 in February. While he looked good this past season, eventually age takes its toll, especially in basketball.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/s...ign-trade-deal
As much as I hate LA and Kobe it will make the Lakers more enjoyable to watch. Will be interesting to see how Kobe can play with a 'real' PG after over a decade with the triangle system and last year's Ramon Sessions debacle.
I still don't think it puts them near contention with the Thunder but who knows?
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If Nash has anything left watch out for that offense. Lobbin to bynum and gasol and creating for Kobe. Still think the thunder are the team to beat.
I don't like this move at all. Nash has always been suspect defensively (hence why Pheonix could never get past San Antonio --Parker ran circles around him) and at 39 what is he really bringing to the table other than pinpoint passing and experience? The Lakers got smooshed by Russel Westbrook, what do you think Westbrook is going to do to Nash??? The good news is they gave up very little to get him since Laker draft picks will all be #20+ barring some catastrophic decline.WOW
I didn't see this one coming, either.
While Nash is a great player, I don't know how he'll fit with this team.
He's also going to be 39 in February. While he looked good this past season, eventually age takes its toll, especially in basketball.
Would be nice if they could manage to get Dwight Howard, because Bynum is just too inconsistent, and they need another legitimate superstar with Kobe aging (and playing since age 18).
Also, if you think Bynum is inconsistent you need to watch more Orlando Magic games, some nights Howard throws up airballs from 3' away.
Here is what you got with Bynum: .558 FG% -- 11.8 RPG -- 1.9 BPG -- 18.7 PPG. Is Howard really that much of an upgrade at 20.6 PPG-- 14.5 RPG -- and 2.1 BPG? his scoring and rebounding is likely to go down on the Lakers (Blocks will likely improve though), who have a far better supporting cast than the Magic. Trading anything but Bynum and some bench players to land Howard is a bad move in my opinion, you can't give up Bynum and anything else substantial
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http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/s...ign-trade-dealNash will receive a three-year deal for an estimated $27 million because the Suns ultimately agreed to sign-and-trade him to the Lakers, who can absorb Nash via the trade exception they created by dealing Lamar Odom to the Dallas Mavericks in December.
In return, the Suns get four draft picks -- first rounders in 2013 and 2015 and second rounders in 2013 and 2014.
So wait a minute, this is a 3-year contract?
Do they not realize that he will be turning 41 during the middle of the third season?
Maybe I should consider trying to sign with the Lakers, since I am slightly taller than Nash and will be turning 41 during the upcoming Lakers' season, and apparently that's okay.
I'll even take an NBA minimum contract, instead of $9 million per year.
Get Kupchak on the phone.
At least they will be parting ways with Ramon Sessions, who was horrendous during the playoffs.
No doubt that Nash will make the team better next year, but what about the next two years after that?
Also, I still don't see how adding a 39-year-old will enable them to solve their longtime problem of being able to handle quick guards against them. They still won't match up well with OKC.
While you might not have any value to the Lakers for the first part of the year, your expiring contract may very well make you a much-talked-about hot commodity on the trade market. Lock up as much dough as you can. Try to get more than whatever the midlevel exception goes for nowadays, probably around 6 mil.
You have absolulety no knowledge about bball. Nash is the best PG in the league with the mst playoff exp and 2 mvp's. Stick to baseball Druff
You basically posted the same thing I just did about OKC, except in more detail. For the last 2 decades at least, the Lakers have not been able to handle quick guards. They were good enough at times to win some titles despite that, but the current version of the team isn't, and Nash does nothing to address that deficiency.I don't like this move at all. Nash has always been suspect defensively (hence why Pheonix could never get past San Antonio --Parker ran circles around him) and at 39 what is he really bringing to the table other than pinpoint passing and experience? The Lakers got smooshed by Russel Westbrook, what do you think Westbrook is going to do to Nash??? The good news is they gave up very little to get him since Laker draft picks will all be #20+ barring some catastrophic decline.
Also, if you think Bynum is inconsistent you need to watch more Orlando Magic games, some nights Howard throws up airballs from 3' away.
Here is what you got with Bynum: .558 FG% -- 11.8 RPG -- 1.9 BPG -- 18.7 PPG. Is Howard really that much of an upgrade at 20.6 PPG-- 14.5 RPG -- and 2.1 BPG? his scoring and rebounding is likely to go down on the Lakers (Blocks will likely improve though), who have a far better supporting cast than the Magic. Trading anything but Bynum and some bench players to land Howard is a bad move in my opinion, you can't give up Bynum and anything else substantial
I also agree that they shouldn't give up a lot besides Bynum to obtain Howard.
Nash WAS a very good PG, he's not even Top 10 right now unless you find the perfect team for him to play on, and the Lakers are not it. Nash thrives in the open court creating fast break opportunities. He's a terrible one-on-one defender, has a questionable jump shot, and HE's 39! I will give you that he is excellent in the pick & Roll which could be huge with Gasol
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Didn't see the original thread on this, my bad.You basically posted the same thing I just did about OKC, except in more detail. For the last 2 decades at least, the Lakers have not been able to handle quick guards. They were good enough at times to win some titles despite that, but the current version of the team isn't, and Nash does nothing to address that deficiency.
I also agree that they shouldn't give up a lot besides Bynum to obtain Howard.
Pretty wild free agency so far. LOL at the Mavs completely striking out and LOL at the Knicks just now signing Jason Kidd (3 years/$9 mil)
Kudos to the Nets for being able to keep Deron Williams but I'm not sure how Joe Johnson will translate on that team. He's basically a poor man's Carmelo Anthony, and they've gutted themselves for a nucleus of Deron/Joe Johnson/Gerald Wallace? Landing Dwight seems impossible now.
Only way the Lakers are relevant is to get Dwight. I'm not sure how Kobe will work with Nash after years in the triangle where the PG didn't really matter. Hopefully they're awful.
that lazy eyed freak used to be good.
Joe Johnson can play, and his game is nothing like Melo; he's more of a stockier "Poor Man's" Ray Allen. He can score when he needs to, and he doesn't mind taking a back seat either. Solid defender as well.Didn't see the original thread on this, my bad.
Pretty wild free agency so far. LOL at the Mavs completely striking out and LOL at the Knicks just now signing Jason Kidd (3 years/$9 mil)
Kudos to the Nets for being able to keep Deron Williams but I'm not sure how Joe Johnson will translate on that team. He's basically a poor man's Carmelo Anthony, and they've gutted themselves for a nucleus of Deron/Joe Johnson/Gerald Wallace? Landing Dwight seems impossible now.
Only way the Lakers are relevant is to get Dwight. I'm not sure how Kobe will work with Nash after years in the triangle where the PG didn't really matter. Hopefully they're awful.
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Nash is a definite upgrade over Blake/Sessions. He's also the best pure shooting point guard in the game (was 3rd in the league this year in effective field goal %, 5th in true shooting %) both highest among point guards. He also doesn't need to shoot much, which will do well on a team with Kobe, Bynum, and Pau. I think the Lakers won't make any more big moves, but who knows.
lol questionable jump shot? He shot 53% from the field last season, and around 25% of his shots were 3's, which he shot 39% from there. He's also a genetic freak, and takes meticulous care of his body, he's less of an injury risk at 38 then many of the younger point guards who have shitty bodies (Derrick Rose, Rondo).Nash WAS a very good PG, he's not even Top 10 right now unless you find the perfect team for him to play on, and the Lakers are not it. Nash thrives in the open court creating fast break opportunities. He's a terrible one-on-one defender, has a questionable jump shot, and HE's 39! I will give you that he is excellent in the pick & Roll which could be huge with Gasol
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That's also his career high, and he hasn't shot above 40% for the past two years from the 3-pt line (not to mention he is only scoring 12 and 14 PPG in those years. Also, there is a big difference between a spot-up shooter and a jump-shooter. Nash is a spot-up shooter which is why he thrives in the fast-break. The Lakers are not really a fast-break team, and Nash isn't going to find himself as the trail in the fast-break as much as he did in Pheonix --I would imagine that Steve nash's 3-pt% correlates to the number of PPG his team scores.... Did a little checking: Last year they were 8th, in his best shooting years they were #1, #1, #1, and #3lol questionable jump shot? He shot 53% from the field last season, and around 25% of his shots were 3's, which he shot 39% from there. He's also both a genetic freak, and takes meticulous care of his body, he's less of an injury risk at 38 then many of the younger point guards who have shitty bodies (Derrick Rose).
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