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    Druff, you really need to write a book

    No, I am not patronizing. But reading the latest 'poker superstar' Tom Dwan who now owes millions, it is quite hilarious. They all have gone broke or on the way to brokeness.

    You really ought to write a book "How I held my poker millions" and it would do quite well. It will be must reading for some noob who luckboxes his way into a payout.

    I have never seen more pathetic losers than pro poker players.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    No, I am not patronizing. But reading the latest 'poker superstar' Tom Dwan who now owes millions, it is quite hilarious. They all have gone broke or on the way to brokeness.

    You really ought to write a book "How I held my poker millions" and it would do quite well. It will be must reading for some noob who luckboxes his way into a payout.

    I have never seen more pathetic losers than pro poker players.



    i played with this arrogant, angle-shotting sob a couple of times at the B when he was killing time at 10-20/25-50 nl waiting on a spot in the big game. him going broke and letting the world see him for who he is along the way = kismet.

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    It is notable that he faded all of the common pitfalls; not ever drinking or drugging never hurts.

    Always reminded me of a friend I grew up that was always wise beyond his years and carried himself like he was 10-15 years older. Wasn't necessarily smarter than anyone but always seemed to know the right move and avoided fucking up.

    We broke his balls for acting this way but always knew he had his head on his shoulders, even though he could be obnoxious and lame. Finally had a kid this year after getting married late.
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    critical thinking and logic abilities drop off suddenly when it becomes clear profit motive is the only attraction for the already affluent

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    That book would depend on Druffs record on sports betting.

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    If druff wrote a book it would likely be the longest book ever written

     
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    Also Brad booth ran hot as fuck at the best possible time in poker. Can’t really feel sorry for the guy as he never deserved the recognition.
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    When we hear a story about Druff on the phone with customer service for an hour arguing for a $50 credit, or the countless other things similar, it is kind of is baffling to most of us and seems a waste of time.

    But given he made the majority of his $ in limit poker, which is game of saved bets and extracting an extra bet, his Jewishness or whatever you want to call it, is the trait that has allowed him to stay solvent.

    Whether it’s maximizing casino rewards or finding the best value credit card deals, it kind of all goes together.

    Obviously he’s skilled, but many are skilled at the game. He’s just incredibly disciplined in regard to money. He also has the temperament for it.

    I’ve lost a few thousand on a bad beat in poker, headed to the pits, and lost $25k still irritated at some small bad beat. He’d be irritated at the bad beat, but I don’t think he tilts off money at some -ev pursuit because he’s tilted. He’s just not built that way.

    Deleware always called him the perfect poker player. I always agreed with him about that, because money mgmt and temperament is really absolutely the main thing if you want to survive decades of swings. Druff hates wasting a single $. It’s easy to make fun of when it’s being a millionaire clipping coupons, but it’s why he has never been out of play.

    Unique skillset to have for him. The only similar people I’ve known like he is came from very poor backgrounds.

    I’m glad to hear him say he’s going to embark on a wellness regimen now that he isn’t a kid. As much as that stuff makes you a great poker player, the way he is wired, can also be stressful and unhealthy.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BetCheckBet View Post
    If druff wrote a book it would likely be the longest book ever written
    True.

    But I would like the audio CD version, it would be a 5 box set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    When we hear a story about Druff on the phone with customer service for an hour arguing for a $50 credit, or the countless other things similar, it is kind of is baffling to most of us and seems a waste of time.

    But given he made the majority of his $ in limit poker, which is game of saved bets and extracting an extra bet, his Jewishness or whatever you want to call it, is the trait that has allowed him to stay solvent.

    Whether it’s maximizing casino rewards or finding the best value credit card deals, it kind of all goes together.

    Obviously he’s skilled, but many are skilled at the game. He’s just incredibly disciplined in regard to money. He also has the temperament for it.

    I’ve lost a few thousand on a bad beat in poker, headed to the pits, and lost $25k still irritated at some small bad beat. He’d be irritated at the bad beat, but I don’t think he tilts off money at some -ev pursuit because he’s tilted. He’s just not built that way.

    Deleware always called him the perfect poker player. I always agreed with him about that, because money mgmt and temperament is really absolutely the main thing if you want to survive decades of swings. Druff hates wasting a single $. It’s easy to make fun of when it’s being a millionaire clipping coupons, but it’s why he has never been out of play.

    Unique skillset to have for him. The only similar people I’ve known like he is came from very poor backgrounds.

    I’m glad to hear him say he’s going to embark on a wellness regimen now that he isn’t a kid. As much as that stuff makes you a great poker player, the way he is wired, can also be stressful and unhealthy.
    I'm a big believer in the concept of, "What's good about a person is also what's bad about a person."

    There aren't many exceptions to this.

    Do you have a friend who absolutely never lies? That's a great trait, until you need him to go along with a small white lie to a company in order to prevent some massive inconvenience.

    Do you know a person who is extremely non-judgmental? That's very noble, until a bad person enters their life and you're tearing your hair out trying to convince them to look at this person realistically.

    Dou know someone who is extremely easygoing and never rattled? That's a very relaxing person to be around, until you need them to get fired up about something important, and then they're useless.

    I could go on forever with these. List a good trait, and I can find a bad side effect to having that trait.

    Poker and AP gambling is a weird thing in that aggression and risk-taking can both lead you to big money and to ruin. Not enough of it can cause you to either slowly lose or be muddled in low-value grinding, and too much of it can bust you.

    The problem is it's usually correlated. It's not common that you find a person who will fire at big events, high stakes cash games, and play wildly, yet show financial restraint in other areas of their life.

    The short answer as to what has kept me from shooting it off has been an internal "off" switch. After I take enough of a beating, I either change something or quit. I won't keep banging my head into the wall until it destroys me. That's what pushed me out of the high stakes cash scene in the late 2000s. After a big downswing, I decided the stress wasn't worth it, and I stepped back down.

    In recent years, I've even reduced my exposure at the WSOP, staying away from $10k events because the variance is too high, and the later-stage competition is tough enough to where it's not worth doing. The exception has been the WSOP Main, of course, because that one has a ton of value.

    I try to always take the attitude that money has value, and while it's not everything, it makes things a lot easier if you're not struggling for it. So I couldn;t just let it slip through my fingers once I ran it up.

    In recent years I have given a lot more respect to the value of health, though. I guess it's because I am getting old. Far better to be poor and healthy than rich and not healthy, even if "not healthy" doesn't mean you're terminal. When your health sucks, pretty much everything else sucks.

     
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    In his old age Jackie Gaughan used to sit in the 1-3-6 holdem game at the El Cortez for a couple hours everyday. There were quarters on the table in this game because of the rake. A $25 pot would get raked $2.50 so there would be a couple quarters in the pot that was pushed to the winner.

    Most guys got rid of the quarters by posting them in the blind or using them as a tip. But any quarters that got pushed to Jackie went straight into his jacket pocket.

    So one day I'm in the game and this guy see's Jackie pocketing the quarters and says "A millionaire is rat holing quarters?"

    Another player responded "How do you think he got to be a millionaire?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    In his old age Jackie Gaughan used to sit in the 1-3-6 holdem game at the El Cortez for a couple hours everyday. There were quarters on the table in this game because of the rake. A $25 pot would get raked $2.50 so there would be a couple quarters in the pot that was pushed to the winner.

    Most guys got rid of the quarters by posting them in the blind or using them as a tip. But any quarters that got pushed to Jackie went straight into his jacket pocket.

    So one day I'm in the game and this guy see's Jackie pocketing the quarters and says "A millionaire is rat holing quarters?"

    Another player responded "How do you think he got to be a millionaire?"

    is that how you got so poor? giving all your money to millionaires?
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    Druff should Sooooo write a book no troll. So many interesting stories. Pretty girl in dorm room, Juan c utommorow having his car towed going to the ends of the earth getting back 50 dollars, stuck in the bathroom just a few of the many along with feud with tyde.Stories about gambling and poker and fraudsters like chrissie. Not having to work for the man in 20 plus years.


    Brought me a lot of enjoyment should share the wealth

     
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    Like another poster said, a Druff book would be 7 thousand pages. Todd has no idea how to edit. He gives the full explanation every time. Then he looks up and sees skeletons in the audience.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dive_Bar_Dave View Post
    Like another poster said, a Druff book would be 7 thousand pages. Todd has no idea how to edit. He gives the full explanation every time. Then he looks up and sees skeletons in the audience.
    If I had no idea how to edit, PFA Radio would be up within minutes of conclusion.

    The full explanation in show subjects is what allows non-poker-community people to also enjoy it. I've gotten a lot of messages over the years from people telling me that family members, spouses, girlfriends, etc have started listening as well, remarking that I make it easy to understand all topics.

    This does make the show longer (and can be frustrating for people who already have knowledge of the stuff I'm explaining), but most don't care about the length, and many enjoy it as long as possible.

    If you notice from the personal stories I post here, I usually am pretty good at keeping them down to the details which are relevant.

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    Yeah, to be honest, I do enjoy most of your clear, full explanations of things (except for the Call-To-Listen Line).

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    Would suggest Druff compiles radio show segments like Druff Time Theater and chops them into YouTube clips

    You’ve had similar segments or prank call characters etc, if you’re trying to get paid from YouTube clipping those up into shorter videos would certainly help. Time consuming probably not worth the money, outsource? Wait isn’t that bad? Third world slave labor is what they tell me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickyPipes View Post
    Would suggest Druff compiles radio show segments like Druff Time Theater and chops them into YouTube clips

    You’ve had similar segments or prank call characters etc, if you’re trying to get paid from YouTube clipping those up into shorter videos would certainly help. Time consuming probably not worth the money, outsource? Wait isn’t that bad? Third world slave labor is what they tell me?
    Good call as he did this with Tomatoes on the Side.

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