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    When Israel finally stabs us in the back, how will they do it?

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    finally?

    bio-weapons disguised as vaccines for an engineered virus with an advantageous survival rate correlation with ashkenazi dna lmao

    they appear to really hate nwords and fixated on turning them into homosexuals within the entertainment industry also but that's the subversion squad

    bring back hitler
    RichardBrodiesCombover has aids

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    Never going to happen.

    Instead, US Jews will finally wake up to the fact that Democrats hate them, and will join the Republican coalition.

    I was just 40 years ahead of my time on this.

    ISRAELI POWER


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    Quote Originally Posted by OK2 View Post
    finally?

    bio-weapons disguised as vaccines for an engineered virus with an advantageous survival rate correlation with ashkenazi dna lmao

    they appear to really hate nwords and fixated on turning them into homosexuals within the entertainment industry also but that's the subversion squad

    bring back hitler
    Sorry dude who found out he’s remotely ashkenazi, who almost died from Covid. Gotta call bullshit here.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Never going to happen.

    Instead, US Jews will finally wake up to the fact that Democrats hate them, and will join the Republican coalition.

    I was just 40 years ahead of my time on this.

    ISRAELI POWER


    Bibi basically telling Biden to go Fuck himself this morning. Love seeing it!

     
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    What is the USS Liberty ...

     
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    A knife for 10 billion Alex

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    Why the wait?
    communist whore

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    Why the wait?
    Why the question?
    What was the question?

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    Probably a must watch.
    https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1569022999436853253
    Idk if Israel will try to get us i nto war w Iran then ww3 or just destroy Iran during ww3.
    Anyhow to answer the op ww3

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    our demise in the middle east will come from Israel leading us by our nose into direct conflict with Iran so they won't have to be the ones to destroy the nukes in Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    our demise in the middle east will come from Israel leading us by our nose into direct conflict with Iran so they won't have to be the ones to destroy the nukes in Iran.
    We don’t need any encouragement. We fairly trip over ourselves to find action. I rather think winning or losing isn’t part of the decision making. Its the game itself.

    Our military building a port in Gaza is evidence of somebody about to pound a no bid .gov contract. We supply the bombs and simultaneously deliver supplies to the target of the bombs. This is currently my most egregious favorite.

    How do I get in on some of this? Virginia and DC home prices will remain strong anyway.

    Yevgeny Prigozhin and his mercenary convict crew has got to have been inspiration and encouragement for the Blackwaters out there. We eliminated the military requirment for high school diplomas and english skills are overated so maybe we round up some immigrants and cut a citizenship deal.

    Many of our immigrants are convicts too and Russia seemed to manage.

    PLTR was originally a Ukraine war play and I luck boxed into the AI. I’m always on the hunt for war plays.

    Adding some Blackrock somewhere on weakness (might never come) as we rebuild Ukraine and the middle east is a look. Blackrock really is as American as apple pie.

     
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    Funding both sides in a war seems -ev. But maybe not.

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    Sad to see Sonatine has gone full FTP_Russia.

    --From Israel's perspective you can make an argument we keep stabbing them in the back. The Arabs keep attacking them, and they keep winning, but the US still makes them give up when they are ahead only to wait for the next time they are attacked. Meanwhile through indefinitely aid this whole time the US has basically been paying for the Palestinians to keep attacking them.

    How much better would everyone be right now if Israel had just been allowed to throw out all the Palestinians decades ago and do whatever it took to Lebanon (including leveling it if need be) so Iranian proxies couldn't indefinitely use it as a base to attack Israel?

    I mean the Arab countries and Turkey threw out all their Jews and most of their Christians and everyone got over it pretty quick. Very reasonable to assume if Israel had just thrown out the Palestinians decades ago, the world would have moved on a long time ago, and everyone would be better off. But the US has never allowed it, so here we are.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Sad to see Sonatine has gone full FTP_Russia.

    --From Israel's perspective you can make an argument we keep stabbing them in the back. The Arabs keep attacking them, and they keep winning, but the US still makes them give up when they are ahead only to wait for the next time they are attacked. Meanwhile through indefinitely aid this whole time the US has basically been paying for the Palestinians to keep attacking them.

    How much better would everyone be right now if Israel had just been allowed to throw out all the Palestinians decades ago and do whatever it took to Lebanon (including leveling it if need be) so Iranian proxies couldn't indefinitely use it as a base to attack Israel?

    I mean the Arab countries and Turkey threw out all their Jews and most of their Christians and everyone got over it pretty quick. Very reasonable to assume if Israel had just thrown out the Palestinians decades ago, the world would have moved on a long time ago, and everyone would be better off. But the US has never allowed it, so here we are.

    and why didn't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Sad to see Sonatine has gone full FTP_Russia.

    --From Israel's perspective you can make an argument we keep stabbing them in the back. The Arabs keep attacking them, and they keep winning, but the US still makes them give up when they are ahead only to wait for the next time they are attacked. Meanwhile through indefinitely aid this whole time the US has basically been paying for the Palestinians to keep attacking them.

    How much better would everyone be right now if Israel had just been allowed to throw out all the Palestinians decades ago and do whatever it took to Lebanon (including leveling it if need be) so Iranian proxies couldn't indefinitely use it as a base to attack Israel?

    I mean the Arab countries and Turkey threw out all their Jews and most of their Christians and everyone got over it pretty quick. Very reasonable to assume if Israel had just thrown out the Palestinians decades ago, the world would have moved on a long time ago, and everyone would be better off. But the US has never allowed it, so here we are.

    and why didn't we?
    It wasn't perceived as being in our best interests. People like to give neocons/neoliberals a hard time, but I think it is extremely under-rated just how good a job our elites generally did the last 50 years or so for American interests. And as we move into a new multipolar world, with right wing populism and left wing suicidal socialism becoming more and more prevalent; we will look back fondly at just how awesome neoliberal Pax Americana was.

    Dont get me wrong. Given how it all started, and the range of possible outcomes, Israel and the Jewish people have had a pretty good run themselves*. But allowing Palestinian ethnonationalism and belligerence to fester like it has, has definitely not been a good thing for anyone, including Palestinians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
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    and why didn't we?
    It wasn't perceived as being in our best interests. People like to give neocons/neoliberals a hard time, but I think it is extremely under-rated just how good a job our elites generally did the last 50 years or so for American interests. And as we move into a new multipolar world, with right wing populism and left wing suicidal socialism becoming more and more prevalent; we will look back fondly at just how awesome neoliberal Pax Americana was.

    Dont get me wrong. Given how it all started, and the range of possible outcomes, Israel and the Jewish people have had a pretty good run themselves*. But allowing Palestinian ethnonationalism and belligerence to fester like it has, has definitely not been a good thing for anyone, including Palestinians.
    Agreed, there will be no winners.

    Always fun Kalam. One of the very few on PFA capable of participating in a dialogue.



    Off the cuff

    Round numbers we are looking at $10 trillion of debt for the last 20 years for very little gain at best. I’d argue increased instability.

    We are becoming numb to what a trillion means any more and its been 16 years since we’ve had a financial crisis. Memories are short.

    What it is gonna cost to service our debt is the new “it” topic. Or should be. (Me and Tellafriend are bond guys)

    You wanna delve into 1973-2001 we can do that too. Vastly more interesting.

    We will now reap what we sowed. By “we” i mean the millenials

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post

    It wasn't perceived as being in our best interests. People like to give neocons/neoliberals a hard time, but I think it is extremely under-rated just how good a job our elites generally did the last 50 years or so for American interests. And as we move into a new multipolar world, with right wing populism and left wing suicidal socialism becoming more and more prevalent; we will look back fondly at just how awesome neoliberal Pax Americana was.

    Dont get me wrong. Given how it all started, and the range of possible outcomes, Israel and the Jewish people have had a pretty good run themselves*. But allowing Palestinian ethnonationalism and belligerence to fester like it has, has definitely not been a good thing for anyone, including Palestinians.
    Agreed, there will be no winners.

    Always fun Kalam. One of the very few on PFA capable of participating in a dialogue.



    Off the cuff

    Round numbers we are looking at $10 trillion of debt for the last 20 years for very little gain at best. I’d argue increased instability.

    We are becoming numb to what a trillion means any more and its been 16 years since we’ve had a financial crisis. Memories are short.

    What it is gonna cost to service our debt is the new “it” topic. Or should be. (Me and Tellafriend are bond guys)

    You wanna delve into 1973-2001 we can do that too. Vastly more interesting.

    We will now reap what we sowed. By “we” i mean the millenials
    20 years ago it seems most people were predicting EU and China would have surpassed the US as economic powers, and yet here we are, still kicking ass and taking names. Obviously mistakes have been made along the way, and a slow decline seems inevitable, but I dont think it is fair to say the last 20 years haven't worked out. In the range of possible outcomes, I would say we are still running +EV, mainly because of the EU's decision to de-industrialize and Xi meddling in the Chinese economy for the worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    Agreed, there will be no winners.

    Always fun Kalam. One of the very few on PFA capable of participating in a dialogue.



    Off the cuff

    Round numbers we are looking at $10 trillion of debt for the last 20 years for very little gain at best. I’d argue increased instability.

    We are becoming numb to what a trillion means any more and its been 16 years since we’ve had a financial crisis. Memories are short.

    What it is gonna cost to service our debt is the new “it” topic. Or should be. (Me and Tellafriend are bond guys)

    You wanna delve into 1973-2001 we can do that too. Vastly more interesting.

    We will now reap what we sowed. By “we” i mean the millenials
    20 years ago it seems most people were predicting EU and China would have surpassed the US as economic powers, and yet here we are, still kicking ass and taking names. Obviously mistakes have been made along the way, and a slow decline seems inevitable, but I dont think it is fair to say the last 20 years haven't worked out. In the range of possible outcomes, I would say we are still running +EV, mainly because of the EU's decision to de-industrialize and Xi meddling in the Chinese economy for the worse.
    We have been discussing the foreign policy idea that the United States should use military force, to overthrow tyrants and establish democracy and the effect of our actions on regional stability…… aaaand the price tag for such military intervention

    The apparant prosperity of the last 2 decades (made possible by borrowing) and world trade have little or nothing to do with what has been tagged neoconservatism. Check the thread title and recall your previous (absurd) assertions about our exploits providing stability in the middle east.

    China’s trade with the US and their likewise “apparant” prosperity was a result of their own policies (borrowing) not ours. History will judge the policies success or failure. Regardless, this is not germaine to our discussion

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