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    Hamilton worked there also.

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    Lol Dave. He’s already admitted the LLC is insolvent. By distributing the physical assets to unsecured creditors who request those deposits back on a “first come, first served” basis, he is favoring one creditor over another. If the LLC then files bankruptcy, or a creditor forces the LLC into it, the trustee will have the power to demand return of those assets, in order to fairly distribute them.

    I don’t think there is any intentional fraud here. There were unforeseen circumstances (the move from the Rio). Don’t fault him for going to Fiji. It’s one of my favorite countries, and is about half the cost of going to Hawaii.

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    There is a simple solution to this problem.

    All American Dave needs to setup in the Grand Bazaar Shops just outside of Bally's.

    They have Giordano's, Wahlburgers, Dirt Dog, Dave's Hot Chicken, etc.

    If you walk by the Grand Bazaar Shops at 3am you will see about 20 people in line to buy some middle-eastern food.

    They have plenty of units that they could rent out at the Grand Bazaar Shops some with kitchens some without.

    This is the solution to All American Dave's problem.

    Note about Bally's. The staff there have a real shitty attitude and they like to fuck with people. WSOP is going to be a fucking disaster. Paris Las Vegas is the exact opposite, they will bend over backwards to make things happen.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjami View Post
    Don’t fault him for going to Fiji. It’s one of my favorite countries, and is about half the cost of going to Hawaii.
    Only if Dan Bilzerian didn't pay the fucking bill.

    All American Dave is not a business man.
    He is a personal trainer and chef.
    In business, you must have vision and adapt to change.

    Dave was making over $700K for about two months of work for seven years.

    Dave is upset because Caesars won't allow him to deliver to customers tables like they do at Caesar's Palace Sportsbook.

    Become an official vendor and open a restaurant in Caesar's Palace food court then you can deliver wherever you want.




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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    He mentions the "WSOP was his business". Most people would love to have a business they can run 7 weeks per year that supports them all year. In my opinion he really took this for granted. It's one thing if he had assets to fall back on. If I was in his position, I would have took that income from the 7 weeks each year and considered it a windfall. Do something the other 45 weeks per year to support yourself. It's one thing if he was semi-retired and had assets to fall back on, but he didn't.
    He Works 7 weeks per year, then wonders what happened when shit goes bad.

    Far as I can tell he’s not bitching that the wsop pulled the plug on him and blaming the rest of the world for his problems.

    I’m sure he would love this gig back.

    I’m sure many of the rest of us would too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    There is a simple solution to this problem.

    All American Dave needs to setup in the Grand Bazaar Shops just outside of Bally's.

    They have Giordano's, Wahlburgers, Dirt Dog, Dave's Hot Chicken, etc.

    If you walk by the Grand Bazaar Shops at 3am you will see about 20 people in line to buy some middle-eastern food.

    They have plenty of units that they could rent out at the Grand Bazaar Shops some with kitchens some without.

    This is the solution to All American Dave's problem.

    Note about Bally's. The staff there have a real shitty attitude and they like to fuck with people. WSOP is going to be a fucking disaster. Paris Las Vegas is the exact opposite, they will bend over backwards to make things happen.

    I’m sure he would love this / but no fucking way they going to let him operate there unless they getting a huge chunk of the $$.

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    So companies like Sunset Case that sell cellphone accessories must pay Caesar's 70% of all profits in order to operate at the Grand Bazaar Shops?

    Bullshit.


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    Thexfactor, just curious, where did you get the 700k figure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    So companies like Sunset Case that sell cellphone accessories must pay Caesar's 70% of all profits in order to operate at the Grand Bazaar Shops?

    Bullshit.


    I’m sure they “just” pay rent. I can’t imagine what retail rent goes for on the strip but it ain’t cheap.

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    The $700K number comes from All American Dave himself.

    Dave is very hard-headed.
    He won't comprise on anything.

    He won't give up his food truck but won't operate it like a real food truck.

    Dave's prices are a little high for a food truck but people are buying $15 sandwiches and $20 pizza's from food trucks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    The $700K number comes from All American Dave himself.

    Dave is very hard-headed.
    He won't comprise on anything.

    He won't give up his food truck but won't operate it like a real food truck.

    Dave's prices are a little high for a food truck but people are buying $15 sandwiches and $20 pizza's from food trucks.

    He needs the truck so he can haul his toys around.

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    It really bothers me that Dave borrowed money from the government, and pissed it all off because he doesn't know how to budget for a rainy day. I hope his loan does not get forgiven, or anybody else's for that matter. I own a small business that was impacted by COVID, but I didn't borrow a penny from anybody. In fact, I don't believe in going into debt, ever. Just my personal opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Online Veteran View Post
    It really bothers me that Dave borrowed money from the government, and pissed it all off because he doesn't know how to budget for a rainy day. I hope his loan does not get forgiven, or anybody else's for that matter. I own a small business that was impacted by COVID, but I didn't borrow a penny from anybody. In fact, I don't believe in going into debt, ever. Just my personal opinion.

    I'm almost certain his loan was forgiven. All you have to say is that you used the money for certain things and your good. There was almost no enforcement for these PPP loans. The bank is on the borrowers side for these loans as the government pays off the loan to the lender. He likely blew that 200k plus on on ransom shit - not his business.

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    You are supposed to spend most of the PPP money on your employees. Dave's got 60? No fucking way. Even during great times when he paid dozens of mostly women to deliver his meals, he never employed that many people at a time.

    What did Bankrupt Dave buy with nearly $250K? A Rolex? A new vehicle? A new home? A new girlfriend? Did he spend it on his wife & kid?

    Look Bankrupt Dave is a good chef and personal trainer.

    I think he could have made money being regular food truck but Dave doesn't have that kind of time and won't put the work in. What should Bankrupt Dave do now? He is finished in the poker community and probably with Las Vegas too.

    Move to Hollywood, train the rich and famous.

    You just know that you will see one of Dave's vehicles at a future Trump rally.


     
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    We are several years removed from the All American Dave fiasco.

    The guy I believe still has a home in FIJI (he posted about being in FIJI as late as March 2023)

    What a joke, claiming to be broke.

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    All American Dave masqueraded as an honest businessman who cared about the poker community... until he couldn't operate at WSOP anymore, and gave everyone the collective middle finger.

    That's basically what happened.

     
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    He's BACK... sort of.

    https://twitter.com/AllAmericanDave/status/1819099116737323443


    Dave is now heavily into fitness, and has some kind of weight loss bet with Dan Bilzerian, of all people.

    He claims that he will try to make right the situation with the WSOP player food balances, if possible. Hopefully he does.

    He has also been messaging me privately, stating that he'd like to tell me the full story, so I will hear him out.

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    Does anyone know exactly how much money Dave owes in these balances? The thing is he has hemmed and hawed about these balances forever. Either pay them back or shut up about it already. He’s talked about playing people with food, equipment and even fucking “knowledge” for Christ’s sake.

    This is not a guy who has been on his ass for years. He has three young children, a wife, property & a business. We all have our struggles, but it looks to me Dave is better off than most. Good for him. It’s great he’s taking care of himself. But a guy who has a weight loss bet with Dan Blizerian, using the name “All American Dave” and still doing this nonsense regarding these balances is just absurd to me.

    Either pay it or not. I have a strong feeling he could have made good on these balances already. The fact he hasn’t paid a penny (that I know of) leads me to believe this is just lip service. The only way I see these balances taken care of is if he somehow gets a gig feeding poker player again.

    I get that the guy had a cash cow when he worked the WSOP. He got used to that money coming in and the lifestyle that came with it. But shit happens and things change. He had to know there was a large possibility that wasn’t going to last forever. I wish him well but the next time he brings up these balances it should really come with some actual $$$ returned to the players with balances. It’s really been enough already imo.

    I’m guessing this guy Matt Vaughn’s $500 balance is probably among the highest. In the gambling world I think a lot of us realize it’s not worth chasing people down for debts of a few hundred bucks in many cases. It just takes too much energy, especially if you doubt it’s even collectible. I’m guessing that’s how the overwhelming majority of people that had balances look at it. Plus a lot of big names seem to come to Dave’s defense and publicly felt bad for him losing his gig. But again, it’s just annoying he keeps bringing it up but with $0.00000000 behind it. But he’s got money to bet with Dan Blizerian? Come on.

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