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    Fuck the midget in North Korea

    The Interview is online for free. Seth Rogen sent this out earlier.

    http://www.theinterview-movie.com/

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    Nevermind. It isn't free. I'm a dumbass.


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    Relevent post I saw today on LE REDDIT.

    Shoutout to Stewart Wiggins.

     
    Well, the trailer with Diana Bang jumping on Seth Rogen's bones like a dragon lady didn't exactly sell me on the idea.

    Larry Flynt announced he's going to do a porno spin-off of the movie. I'm sure he's going to be real concerned about avoiding unsavory Asian sexual stereotypes.

    The funny thing is that the early reviews of the movie were pretty lukewarm, not just from critics but from regular test audiences. Now after this controversy, people are hailing it as the greatest comedy of our generation.

    It's also caused a resurgence of those stupid NORTH KOREA BEST KOREA memes. That's just annoying, though.

    What makes me angry is that by mocking North Korea, the mockers are reinforcing the DPRK's state propaganda. If you think the North Korean government is stupid or you see them as toothless cartoon villains, then you've already been indoctrinated by it. Hook, line, and sinker. Without getting too much into my personal life, I have close ties with people deeply involved in North Korea. I've befriended DPRK defectors and people who have dedicated their lives to dismantling the Kim regime.

    North Korea is the only Orwellian police state in the world and it has been that way for almost 70 years. Other nations have tried to maintain a government like the DPRK's in the modern world and failed. The USSR broke apart. Fascist Italy fell. Nazi Germany fell. Gaddafi was ousted and killed.

    Yet the DPRK endures. People don't rebel, other countries don't invade them, and they still receive concessions from the international community even as they continue developing their nuclear program. Stupid governments can't keep 24.9 million people drinking the Kool Aid and force exponentially more powerful countries into bargaining positions.

    A large part of why North Korea endures is because they've carefully engineered how they want to appear to the West. Horrific things are happening there right now. Some of my friends have been sent to juvenile concentration camps where kids were beaten and raped by the guards. Camps where kids had their feet cut off for attempting to escape. Friends who saw a fresh corpse on the street every day they walked home from school, left to starve to death on the sidewalk because of the Great Famine. Friends who were forced to eat bark to survive, friends who witnessed cannibalism.

    There is so much information out there about how horrible and dangerous North Korea is but the international community doesn't receive pressure from their constituents to do anything about it because everyone views North Korea as a joke. That is a very intentional, calculated move by the DPRK government. They are fully aware of how ridiculous and empty their threats sound. Those statements are nothing but propaganda fed to the West.

    B.R. Myers is one of the world's foremost scholars of North Korea and he pointed out that North Korea is not very socialist or communist. In fact, if you read the North Korean constitution, you won't find a single mention of socialism or communism. But they are very Confucian, and a lot of what they talk about in their constitution is aligned with Confucian principles. That also goes for their foreign policy. It's straight out of the Art of War. To quote Sun Tzu:

    If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
    And that's exactly what North Korea does. They know they can't possibly withstand a military invasion from a first world power, but at the same time, they can't risk a policy of close contact because it would compromise the internal propaganda they minister to their citizens.

    So they make ridiculous threats they can't possibly carry out. They get angry about comedy movies. They play the role of the tiny man with a huge chip on his shoulder, and the international community responds accordingly. The unspeakable atrocities North Korea is committing against its citizens is overshadowed by the global public perceiving North Korea as a cartoon villain, because they can't see the DP. And when North Korea does do something legitimately dangerous like missile tests in Japanese waters or firing upon submarines, it is without warning, provocation, grandstanding, or boasting. Nothing came of the RKS Cheonan attack because there was no hard evidence that linked it back to the DPRK. Do you think an inept government can pull that off?

    This is how they control their public image. It's how they make it clear they are not to be fucked with when they want to be taken seriously, but when they need to relieve international pressure off themselves, they start talking like Darth Vader, and the laughs and mocking that follow work to North Korea's benefit. This is why their foreign policy is so effective.

    Did you know they're also heavily involved in organized crime? You probably haven't and you'll never hear North Korea boasting about it, even though their criminal enterprises are a legitimate threat that causes actual damage overseas. They want to divert people's attention away from things like Room 39 so they make wild threats they cannot possibly carry out and the international media eats it up. Room 39 is a multibillion dollar criminal enterprise but we have little information about it. People struggle to accept that the DPRK can run operations like this because of the misguided belief that the DPRK is run by boneheads.

    Look at what the response has been like for their threats about The Interview. The DPRK know damn well it can't can bomb any American movie theaters. But they used their grand, puffed up threats as propaganda. And it isn't the first time they've indoctrinated the West with idle threats.

    What's the response to North Korean news on any popular media website? North Korea Best Korea! ROR! You are now banned from r/pyongyang! Any discussions about the concentration camps or human rights abuses are completely drowned out by stupid memes, stupid memes which exist because North Korea presented itself as an evil empire out of a sci-fi book and the West ate it up. North Korea is already associated with vapid memes in the eyes of young westerners. Now it'll be associated with a slightly above average comedy movie and hammy threats, playing right into the belief that North Korea like a real-life version of Mordor or the Galactic Empire.

    When you hear about the Galactic Empire killing trillions of people in Star Wars, you don't feel anything because it's fiction. The Empire is a make-believe exaggeration of evil. On a subconscious level, it's a lot easier to feel ambivalent towards millions of people being tortured, raped, and starved on a daily basis when you view the oppressing power in the same level of ridiculousness as Darth Vader.

    But Kim Jong Un is not Emperor Palpatine. The Workers' Party are not Sith Lords. They are completely sane, flesh-and-blood men and women no different from me or you who torture and imprison regular people.

    Real people. People who are fathers, daughters, uncles, friends. Imagine if your family lived in a country where one misstep you make could land you and your children in the gulag. If you have daughters, you can expect them to be raped by guards who don't bother to use condoms and their fetuses forcefully aborted. If you have a relative that has special needs, expect them to be executed for polluting the gene pool.

    When you step back and start deprogramming yourself from the media conditioning that North Korea has been feeding you, it's not so easy to be so flippant about North Korea, is it? Suddenly it becomes as disturbing as joking about the deaths of Eric Garner and Tamir Rice, or creating memes out of the two NYPD officers who were murdered in cold blood simply for being in uniform. Picture that on a scale magnified by millions and perpetuated every single day. That's the reality of people living in North Korea. It's not happening in a movie. It's not happening in the past. It's all happening right now, and people would rather crack jokes about it than address it.

    So the fact that the world is congratulating itself for being so witty and edgy for mocking North Korea is what made me angry this week. Once again, the North Korean government proved that comfort kills empathy. It's natural human psychology. I've seen more outrage against North Korea for bullying Sony into pulling this movie than I have when the UN released its report on North Korean concentration camps.

    If the world was able to see North Korea soberly as the most brutal dictatorship in the world, it wouldn't be such a pain in the ass convincing people to get involved. That's harder to do now that everyone is lapping up the DPRK's Kool Aid without realizing.

    Why is this the issue Reddit wants to have protests over?

    Their entertainment is being taken away. Also, it takes literally no sacrifice or effort on their part to reverse it. All they had to do was complain on the Internet to get Sony to release the film.

    And they get to feel like they're being politically active by protesting a private company's right to pull a movie rather than organizing a march to Washington to demand more government oversight for the CIA.


    tl;dr - Maybe North Korea is happy that we're all so focused on this stupid movie, that we regard them as farcical saber rattlers, and that we don't seem to care as much about their horrific practices. Maybe it's all just an act.

     
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    What's your take on who downed their internet? U.S. government, China, or anonymous?

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    Thanks for the link...it wasn't north Korea..they have a bill in the house that would give authority to corporate and govt angencies to somewhat regulate the internet..you guys are probably laughing at me but the bill is there..created about 6 months ago.didn't have enough support to go through..just another CRAZY coincedence..there planing to bring it to the floor again for a vote..just waiting for you guys to go back to sleep..if anyone wants a custom aluminom foil helmet just contact me..1888 i. Told.u.so...

     
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    You seem to be referencing the repubs bill designed to fuck with net neutrality which is its own brand of bs but has nothing to do with North Korea .......having guessed that, I realize I am guessing because you could just as easily be making shit up

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    Both dems and rep want there hands on it..but whenever theres a bill that fucks us there always seems to be a corresponding emergency to go with that they just have to pass right away..Benghazi or irs..nothing will come of it..one thing I am pretty sure of..north Korea had nothing to do with it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrslySirius View Post
    Relevent post I saw today on LE REDDIT.

    Shoutout to Stewart Wiggins.

     
    Well, the trailer with Diana Bang jumping on Seth Rogen's bones like a dragon lady didn't exactly sell me on the idea.

    Larry Flynt announced he's going to do a porno spin-off of the movie. I'm sure he's going to be real concerned about avoiding unsavory Asian sexual stereotypes.

    The funny thing is that the early reviews of the movie were pretty lukewarm, not just from critics but from regular test audiences. Now after this controversy, people are hailing it as the greatest comedy of our generation.

    It's also caused a resurgence of those stupid NORTH KOREA BEST KOREA memes. That's just annoying, though.

    What makes me angry is that by mocking North Korea, the mockers are reinforcing the DPRK's state propaganda. If you think the North Korean government is stupid or you see them as toothless cartoon villains, then you've already been indoctrinated by it. Hook, line, and sinker. Without getting too much into my personal life, I have close ties with people deeply involved in North Korea. I've befriended DPRK defectors and people who have dedicated their lives to dismantling the Kim regime.

    North Korea is the only Orwellian police state in the world and it has been that way for almost 70 years. Other nations have tried to maintain a government like the DPRK's in the modern world and failed. The USSR broke apart. Fascist Italy fell. Nazi Germany fell. Gaddafi was ousted and killed.

    Yet the DPRK endures. People don't rebel, other countries don't invade them, and they still receive concessions from the international community even as they continue developing their nuclear program. Stupid governments can't keep 24.9 million people drinking the Kool Aid and force exponentially more powerful countries into bargaining positions.

    A large part of why North Korea endures is because they've carefully engineered how they want to appear to the West. Horrific things are happening there right now. Some of my friends have been sent to juvenile concentration camps where kids were beaten and raped by the guards. Camps where kids had their feet cut off for attempting to escape. Friends who saw a fresh corpse on the street every day they walked home from school, left to starve to death on the sidewalk because of the Great Famine. Friends who were forced to eat bark to survive, friends who witnessed cannibalism.

    There is so much information out there about how horrible and dangerous North Korea is but the international community doesn't receive pressure from their constituents to do anything about it because everyone views North Korea as a joke. That is a very intentional, calculated move by the DPRK government. They are fully aware of how ridiculous and empty their threats sound. Those statements are nothing but propaganda fed to the West.

    B.R. Myers is one of the world's foremost scholars of North Korea and he pointed out that North Korea is not very socialist or communist. In fact, if you read the North Korean constitution, you won't find a single mention of socialism or communism. But they are very Confucian, and a lot of what they talk about in their constitution is aligned with Confucian principles. That also goes for their foreign policy. It's straight out of the Art of War. To quote Sun Tzu:



    And that's exactly what North Korea does. They know they can't possibly withstand a military invasion from a first world power, but at the same time, they can't risk a policy of close contact because it would compromise the internal propaganda they minister to their citizens.

    So they make ridiculous threats they can't possibly carry out. They get angry about comedy movies. They play the role of the tiny man with a huge chip on his shoulder, and the international community responds accordingly. The unspeakable atrocities North Korea is committing against its citizens is overshadowed by the global public perceiving North Korea as a cartoon villain, because they can't see the DP. And when North Korea does do something legitimately dangerous like missile tests in Japanese waters or firing upon submarines, it is without warning, provocation, grandstanding, or boasting. Nothing came of the RKS Cheonan attack because there was no hard evidence that linked it back to the DPRK. Do you think an inept government can pull that off?

    This is how they control their public image. It's how they make it clear they are not to be fucked with when they want to be taken seriously, but when they need to relieve international pressure off themselves, they start talking like Darth Vader, and the laughs and mocking that follow work to North Korea's benefit. This is why their foreign policy is so effective.

    Did you know they're also heavily involved in organized crime? You probably haven't and you'll never hear North Korea boasting about it, even though their criminal enterprises are a legitimate threat that causes actual damage overseas. They want to divert people's attention away from things like Room 39 so they make wild threats they cannot possibly carry out and the international media eats it up. Room 39 is a multibillion dollar criminal enterprise but we have little information about it. People struggle to accept that the DPRK can run operations like this because of the misguided belief that the DPRK is run by boneheads.

    Look at what the response has been like for their threats about The Interview. The DPRK know damn well it can't can bomb any American movie theaters. But they used their grand, puffed up threats as propaganda. And it isn't the first time they've indoctrinated the West with idle threats.

    What's the response to North Korean news on any popular media website? North Korea Best Korea! ROR! You are now banned from r/pyongyang! Any discussions about the concentration camps or human rights abuses are completely drowned out by stupid memes, stupid memes which exist because North Korea presented itself as an evil empire out of a sci-fi book and the West ate it up. North Korea is already associated with vapid memes in the eyes of young westerners. Now it'll be associated with a slightly above average comedy movie and hammy threats, playing right into the belief that North Korea like a real-life version of Mordor or the Galactic Empire.

    When you hear about the Galactic Empire killing trillions of people in Star Wars, you don't feel anything because it's fiction. The Empire is a make-believe exaggeration of evil. On a subconscious level, it's a lot easier to feel ambivalent towards millions of people being tortured, raped, and starved on a daily basis when you view the oppressing power in the same level of ridiculousness as Darth Vader.

    But Kim Jong Un is not Emperor Palpatine. The Workers' Party are not Sith Lords. They are completely sane, flesh-and-blood men and women no different from me or you who torture and imprison regular people.

    Real people. People who are fathers, daughters, uncles, friends. Imagine if your family lived in a country where one misstep you make could land you and your children in the gulag. If you have daughters, you can expect them to be raped by guards who don't bother to use condoms and their fetuses forcefully aborted. If you have a relative that has special needs, expect them to be executed for polluting the gene pool.

    When you step back and start deprogramming yourself from the media conditioning that North Korea has been feeding you, it's not so easy to be so flippant about North Korea, is it? Suddenly it becomes as disturbing as joking about the deaths of Eric Garner and Tamir Rice, or creating memes out of the two NYPD officers who were murdered in cold blood simply for being in uniform. Picture that on a scale magnified by millions and perpetuated every single day. That's the reality of people living in North Korea. It's not happening in a movie. It's not happening in the past. It's all happening right now, and people would rather crack jokes about it than address it.

    So the fact that the world is congratulating itself for being so witty and edgy for mocking North Korea is what made me angry this week. Once again, the North Korean government proved that comfort kills empathy. It's natural human psychology. I've seen more outrage against North Korea for bullying Sony into pulling this movie than I have when the UN released its report on North Korean concentration camps.

    If the world was able to see North Korea soberly as the most brutal dictatorship in the world, it wouldn't be such a pain in the ass convincing people to get involved. That's harder to do now that everyone is lapping up the DPRK's Kool Aid without realizing.

    Why is this the issue Reddit wants to have protests over?

    Their entertainment is being taken away. Also, it takes literally no sacrifice or effort on their part to reverse it. All they had to do was complain on the Internet to get Sony to release the film.

    And they get to feel like they're being politically active by protesting a private company's right to pull a movie rather than organizing a march to Washington to demand more government oversight for the CIA.


    tl;dr - Maybe North Korea is happy that we're all so focused on this stupid movie, that we regard them as farcical saber rattlers, and that we don't seem to care as much about their horrific practices. Maybe it's all just an act.
    I hit that spoiler & was smashed by a wall of text. How did you harvest this gem of 2nd level thinking?

    Never would have seen this otherwise

    Play the fool & they leave you alone.

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    Anyone who hasn't seen this will thank me after watching.


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    holy fucking shit is this movie horrible. Like really, fucking horrible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by handicapme View Post
    holy fucking shit is this movie horrible. Like really, fucking horrible...
    Just finished watching it. It isn't Oscar worthy by any means, but if you take it for what it is then it is pretty good. You can tell that it came from Rogen, Franco, and their crew of buddies.

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