*** OFFICIAL *** MLB 2024 Thread

[gut]

I don’t understand the love affair with Bobby Miller but we digress.

Ohtani, Graterol, May, Sheehan, Buehler, Treinen, Gonsolin, (Kershaw sic)

It’s quite a list of injured pitchers. The Dodgers are noted for not being very truthful about pitcher injuries. The injury description morphs over time. We have no firm idea about any of them. I’m not covinced Dave Roberts knows either.

Even Ohtani’s injury is not clear. The basics might include, “what exact medical procedure was performed?” We won’t be told until he suffers a setback

The only pitcher that is of consequence is Buehler. He was their #1 2 or 3 years ago. 2nd TJ. He’ll be hugley restricted. Is he 93/94 mph? He may not make it. I have zero faith in Pryor. He is a problem not a solution.

Bieber and Strider hurts every fan’s heart. It really causes us to ask what needs to be changed. Dodgers and the 6 day rotation feels right during a meaningless season. Allow max effort players to recover. Couple guys come back like May and Gonsolin and you use them in an opener deal instead of Stone.

Dodgers have bigger fish to fry like defense and hitting against lefties.

Verlander with a good take on this. He tiptoes the line of being opinionated but not too brash. You can tell he wants to say more:

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I think thats the most common sense answer i've heard yet. Basically no such thing as a starting pitcher anymore. Everyone at full velo and spin every pitch.

MLB might need to clip the wings off the ball again. Of course they don't want that, dingers get people in the seats. Gen Z has no attention span for a 2-1 pitchers duel.

[1dollarboxcar]

more documentation of pitchers arm injuries since implementation of the pitch clock...

https://www.carriermanagement.com/ne.../08/260889.htm

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...der-eury-perez

[Sanlmar]

Verlander lends confirmation to the notion its an accumulation of things but velo and spin lead the list.

Look at the Dodgers. They had a specialist on staff who was THE GUY when it came to concocting goop. The Dodgers were on the cutting edge of stuff orders of magnitude behond Spider Tack.

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The best part was the Dodgers very own pitcher, Trevor Bauer, blew the top off the sticky stuff issue.
LO fucking L

The Dodgers were gored by there own ox. A whistle blower like Bauer should have been killed by Friedman like Boeing wacked their whistleblower. The dysfunction in LA is so much damn fun.



They took away the goop but Mark Prior and the Dodgers staff maintained the velo spin religion and every one of their pitchers went under the knife once or twice. But every other team did too - to a lesser degree.

Except Kershaw. The Dodgers were hands off Kershaw for obvious reasons. Fuck up Kershaw and you are collecting carriages in the Walmart parking lot.

[Sanlmar]

I don’t understand the love affair with Bobby Miller but we digress.

It’s Bobby Thriller day against the mighty Twins

-190 @ open —> -160 +/-

The Thriller outs pitched are juiced under 15.5. Miller fraud

The RL ploppies still out in force

Paddock is a recent TJ hospital patient too … hmmm

Trash Austin Barnes in line up lol

Gonna target the Paddock cripple…. Dodgers F5 TT o2.5 +110…. Awful Dodger lineup pray for me

Garbage game

[Sanlmar]

Dodgers F5 TT o2.5 +110…. Awful Dodger lineup pray for me

Garbage game

Dodgers strand 3 runners at 3rd base in the course of the F5.

Just needed one to cross home




Dud Dodgers lineup today.

I’ll make a side bet Miller forearm tightness DL this year. He overthrows but he’s a Mark Prior product

[BCR]

Man, the White Sox are transitioning Kopech from starter to relief. That dude came in last night for last 2 innings and threw as hard as anyone I’ve ever seen. He threw 24 pitches and 24 fastballs. One was 99 and every other pitch was 101-103. No one could catch up to a thing he was throwing.

[Dan Druff]

Dodgers F5 TT o2.5 +110…. Awful Dodger lineup pray for me

Garbage game

Dodgers strand 3 runners at 3rd base in the course of the F5.

Just needed one to cross home




Dud Dodgers lineup today.

I’ll make a side bet Miller forearm tightness DL this year. He overthrows but he’s a Mark Prior product

Tip for the future, from an oft-frustrated Dodgers fan.

Dave Roberts (or perhaps Friedman) loves shit lineups on travel days.

This has been lamented for years on a small Dodgers Facebook group where I sometimes post.

This year it won't be quite as bad, as the big 3 (Betts/Ohtani/Freeman) will rarely sit. And I think Teoscar Hernandez will not have many off days either. However, beyond that it's a lot of shit, especially in the bottom half of the lineup. Swapping Austin Barnes for Will Smith is probably the biggest offensive downgrade of a catcher in MLB. So yeah, a bottom half which includes Kike Hernandez, Miguel Rojas, and Barnes is gonna struggle to score runs.

Sorry about the left on base. I actually almost bet under for the game, but Chris Paddack hadn't had significant time in MLB since 2021 (I assume your thinking, too), so I stayed away. Easily would've covered.

[Dan Druff]

Julio Urias facing 5 misdemeanor charges over September 2023 domestic violence issue: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...e-misdemeanors

He's probably never coming back to MLB.

Both of his domestic violence issues involved his wife, and occurred in public places. Dumb. It seems like they have one of those toxic relationships where both hit each other, and that's why the first incident was eventually dropped. Both were also fairly minor, though possibly only because they were in public. Maybe behind closed doors it's worse. But the point is that it's not like his wife is calling the police on him. She never has, and probably never would have. Somehow after being lucky enough to escape the 2019 incident, the idiot did it again in public where police were likely to respond no matter what.

[Sanlmar]

I remember trolling Urias on these boards when he was an over rated rookie prospect. That’s some sobering shit about time.

[Dan Druff]

Strider out for year.

In the meantime, another arm injury. The Dodgers' Bobby Miller will be on the DL indefinitely with elbow inflammation.

Current injured Dodgers starters:

Clayton Kershaw, Walker Buehler, Emmet Sheehan, Dustin May, Tony Gonsolin, and now Miller.

Without the new signings of Yoshi Yamamoto, Tyler Glasnow, and James Paxton, the Dodgers would have just 1 starter left -- Gavin Stone.

[David USF]

Miller has shoulder inflammation, not elbow.

https://dodgersnation.com/dodgers-pl...es/2024/04/13/

[Sanlmar]

Strider out for year.

In the meantime, another arm injury. The Dodgers' Bobby Miller will be on the DL indefinitely with elbow inflammation.

Current injured Dodgers starters:

Clayton Kershaw, Walker Buehler, Emmet Sheehan, Dustin May, Tony Gonsolin, and now Miller.

Without the new signings of Yoshi Yamamoto, Tyler Glasnow, and James Paxton, the Dodgers would have just 1 starter left -- Gavin Stone.

Miller has suffered from shoulder issues before. His shoulder is his Achilles heel but it’s not his heel or elbow.

The list is far less impressive without the injured relievers.

Mark Prior should be tried for war crimes

[gut]

Strider out for year.

In the meantime, another arm injury. The Dodgers' Bobby Miller will be on the DL indefinitely with elbow inflammation.

Current injured Dodgers starters:

Clayton Kershaw, Walker Buehler, Emmet Sheehan, Dustin May, Tony Gonsolin, and now Miller.

Without the new signings of Yoshi Yamamoto, Tyler Glasnow, and James Paxton, the Dodgers would have just 1 starter left -- Gavin Stone.

Miller has suffered from shoulder issues before. His shoulder is his Achilles heel but it’s not his heel or elbow.

The list is far less impressive without the injured relievers.

Mark Prior should be tried for war crimes

Pol Potrior, genocide of arms

[Dan Druff]

It's a little bit scary that the two star Dodgers pitchers now are a small Japanese guy and a dude with a long injury history.

Lord help us.

Have you seen Max Muncy's weird stats?

When he makes contact, he's 14-for-30, which is nearly .500.

However, at the same time, he has 27 strikeouts. Yes, 27 strikeouts in 57 AB. This is only moderated by the fact that he also has 9 walks, but boy these strikeouts are brutal this year.

His ascension has always been a bit of a mystery. Went from a nobody prospect released by Oakland, to banging out 183 HR since 2018. When he joined the Dodgers at that point, he was 27 1/2 years old with 5 career HR to his name, in 215 career AB.

Some have said it's roids, but I don't think so. But it wouldn't surprise me if he completely falls off a cliff at some point.

[Sanlmar]

It's a little bit scary that the two star Dodgers pitchers now are a small Japanese guy and a dude with a long injury history.

The guy with a long injury history is up tonight. Facing him is Sarah Jessica Parker for the Nats. Had a cup of coffee in AAA. 5th round pick. Ritual human sacrifice. Glasnow winning pitcher should be a nice parlay piece.

Glasnow was interviewed in the dugout during the Sunday Night Game of the Week loss against the Padres



Glasnow is so much fun to listen to. Handsome, great flow, all smiles. Sunday Night Baseball spent the evening grinding on pitcher injuries. Obv Glasnow is the leading players spokesman on the subject. He had much to say but he summed it up by saying, “what will be, will be”.

Sacrificing your arm for multi millions is a transaction every kid will make.

Honest to god, Mark Prior was standing next to Glasnow at the start of the interview and the ESPN booth mentioned this to Glasnow. Glasnow laughed. I was howling. Prior turned heel and walked away. Very inside Dodgers but I love it so.

ESPN took the tact last night that MLB might consider changing rules to protect pitchers as the NFL did to protect quarterbacks. They started with the premise that pitching is a “drag race”. Max effort for a 1/4 mile then off to the next guy. What if you had to pull your DH (ex: Ohtani) when you pulled the SP? I think the players union would like this too.

I never said Kershaw wasn’t a good guy. He is being interviewed quite often too recently. Kershaw is being recognized as a top shelf listen. He truly is a HOF interview - and that’s coming from me. Kershaw is not as dumb as I initially thought. He has a great great voice to begin with. He is smoother than bourbon. He is articulate and self deprecating. Get him in the Dodgers booth. I could listen to him for 3 hours. Somehow get rid of Joe Davis. Thank god the MLB app lets you listen to the other team when Dodgers play.

[Sanlmar]

@BCR Tyler Beede joins Karincheck (who can’t get healthy)

Kid played a summer with Beede. Beede went to Vandy and threw final pitch in NCAA championship. We used to go out to a Blue Ribbon Barbecue with his family after home games. Fun memories

I’m all over Cleveland this year

Boston Marathon Day bombing this morning vs Sawks

Cleveland 6-0



I missed opening but bet live 0-0 like 3rd inning

[BCR]

@BCR Tyler Beede joins Karincheck (who can’t get healthy)

Kid played a summer with Beede. Beede went to Vandy and threw final pitch in NCAA championship. We used to go out to a blue Ribbon Barbecue with his family after home games. Fun memories

I’m all over Cleveland this year

Boston Marathon Day bombing this morning vs Sawks

Cleveland 6-0

Yeah I had this also. I only had +144 live. I was up late and woke up in second.

I like Curry. Thought he’d keep it close and bullpen favors us.

Pleasantly surprised by start. Like new manager so far. Didn’t love not pinch running Naylor yesterday in 10th. Thankfully Yankees second basemen couldn’t stop bobbling balls. He’s aggressive, which I like. Kwan has been very good. Today was nice to see Arias and Brennan contribute. Often feels we have half a MLB a lineup. Need some production out of bottom.

Hopefully Beede is able to stay up. Didn’t know he was Mass kid until I just looked him up. I knew he was in Japan last year. Had three solid outings and struggled a little against NY, but that’s to be expected.

[Sanlmar]

For the best thing I saw this week, we head to Cleveland, Ohio. No, not for the solar eclipse, but finding the Naylor brothers doing something amazing at the plate. Josh and Bo Naylor homering in the same inning in the same game on International Siblings Day..

Can’t make this stuff up.

I love the Naylor brothers so watch your tone. I love the crazy eyes. I’d be frightened if I was near them.

Boston honored 2004 Reverse the Curse Championship recently. We miss Terry Francona. They did not invite that “Bloody Sock” Nazi Curt Schilling - how about that?

I know you know the importance of Schilling. Banning that ass-wipe was a move that garnered tremendous respect from me. What team makes bold moves like this anymore?

[BCR]

For the best thing I saw this week, we head to Cleveland, Ohio. No, not for the solar eclipse, but finding the Naylor brothers doing something amazing at the plate. Josh and Bo Naylor homering in the same inning in the same game on International Siblings Day..

Can’t make this stuff up.

I love the Naylor brothers so watch your tone. I love the crazy eyes. I’d be frightened if I was near them.

I love them. Jose, Kwan, and Josh set the tone. Hard outs. Bo has quite a bit of pop. He’s yet to learn patience at the plate, but it will come.

[gut]

Meanwhile I'm watching the Twins like it was me as a kid playing Oregon Trail. Correa joins Lewis on DL, there goes the left side of the infield before even reaching Independence Pass.

Buxton out hunting rabbits, I'm sure he'll get dysentery next. Down to Pablo and Joe Ryan and 1 ox and 20 lbs of food.