Dude flips over opponent's hand before it's over while on live stream at Texas Card House

[matos]

Obviously you should never touch another players cards or chips. But this is an interesting case as nitty scarf douche angle shooter is the one taking advantage and gaining as no action was left on the drunk. Scarf douche should call sooner and not nit roll and this would never have happened. Also he clearly wanted an angle because as soon as anyone got near touching my cards when playing live I would say something right then. It's pretty simple to always keep your cards under a chip near you until you are ready to show or muck. Not sure why so many players can't seem to do this.

I'd like to hear an experienced floor's take on what should happen here. Protecting players money is most important so I would rule that Josh gets some kind of temp ban or time out and that since the action ends on scarf douche he needs to decide what to do and the hand is still live. When scarf douche flips his opponents card scarf douches hand should be dead. If scarf douche wants Josh's hand dead that might be ok but he would only lose whats in the pot then and not the all in bet.

And these texas games are redic, I have to get back to Austin soon for a visit.

[FNdonkey]

Obviously you should never touch another players cards or chips. But this is an interesting case as nitty scarf douche angle shooter is the one taking advantage and gaining as no action was left on the drunk. Scarf douche should call sooner and not nit roll and this would never have happened. Also he clearly wanted an angle because as soon as anyone got near touching my cards when playing live I would say something right then. It's pretty simple to always keep your cards under a chip near you until you are ready to show or muck. Not sure why so many players can't seem to do this.

I'd like to hear an experienced floor's take on what should happen here. Protecting players money is most important so I would rule that Josh gets some kind of temp ban or time out and that since the action ends on scarf douche he needs to decide what to do and the hand is still live. When scarf douche flips his opponents card scarf douches hand should be dead. If scarf douche wants Josh's hand dead that might be ok but he would only lose whats in the pot then and not the all in bet.

And these texas games are redic, I have to get back to Austin soon for a visit.

I spent half my adult life putting in poker rooms, establishing policies & procedures, managing day to day operations, and working the floor.
I would have explained to the gentleman that he is correct he absolutely should not have had his cards turned over but it is also his responsibility to protect his hand. As the player was already all in there was no information to be gained by him doing what he did so I will deal with him after the hand. What I can't decide is if what he did was obnoxious enough to warrant "Setting out a round" or "rack up you're done for the night". Keep in mind the floor person didn't see this go down live like we did, he was called over after.

You are also absolutely right that the guy tried to play this as an angle. When he reached over to grab his cards he made no effort to keep him from turning over his hand.

[donkdowndonedied]

In all my years of poker playing I've never heard "protect your hand" to mean physically preventing someone from reaching over and flipping it over.

[FNdonkey]

In all my years of poker playing I've never heard "protect your hand" to mean physically preventing someone from reaching over and flipping it over.

Just because the dealer taking your cards is the most common instance where this applies doesn't make it the only instance. There's not a "opposing player grabs my cards" section in any rule book so there's some thought that has to be applied here. You want to kick that guy out for doing it I'm completely OK with it. I was kind of proud of the guy when he said I'll deal with him after the hand, it's your action. Then when he caved to the "He shows me 1 card or his hand is dead" it was definitely an eye roll hard to watch moment.