Youtube Slot Community and SlotLady

[apwiz]

You seem to get hung up on these slot people showing winning sessions and good times.

I wonder if you get annoyed every time you see a beer commercial showing guys surrounded by hot women, the Nike commercial showing off how awesome everyone runs in their shoes, and L'Oreal showing how gorgeous their makeup will make you. Fat people never seem to eat fast food in commercials.

All companies show fun and winning at life via their products. It's how advertising works. And all affiliates show the fun times and glance over/ignore the negatives. How many affiliates shilling for poker make videos warning us about gambling online and tell us about young kids who destroyed their career prospects because they bought into the poker dream 5-10 years ago? Not many.

To tell you the truth, I do get annoyed by the beer commercials, by the Nike commercials, by the L'Oreal and fast food commercials. I just don't see most of these slot affiliates are doing anything different.

Now... if they start selling "systems on how to win" and such, then it crosses the line to fraud territory. But most of them are selling fun times and as weird as it is to believe, a lot of people do seem to like to play slots and most people like to recall fondly their wins (and ignore all the times they've lost.) Some of them might be delusional/fraudsters like the guy selling the BJ winning "system". Most are just affiliate shills - not that much different from the Iphone/Samsung shills who tell us all the great things about the product but bury/ignore drawbacks, costs, alternatives, etc.

Slotlady needs to just come clean for being an affiliate marketer for the El Cortez and label it in her youtube videos. She's getting something extra besides filming permission from El Cortez.

Since this is a poker site, it is interesting to point out that none of the poker youtubers were disclosing what they are getting for hosting meetup games at various casinos. Most/none of them were disclosing what they are getting for pushing people to use poker apps, either.

This is not to say that it's right. It is only to point out that many similar affiliates do not make good disclosures and common sense tells most customers that they are getting something. More disclosures would be nice, but as it is, poor disclosure is not a big slot community conspiracy - it is part of normal course of business in most industries.

[NewGuy]

You seem to get hung up on these slot people showing winning sessions and good times.

I wonder if you get annoyed every time you see a beer commercial showing guys surrounded by hot women, the Nike commercial showing off how awesome everyone runs in their shoes, and L'Oreal showing how gorgeous their makeup will make you. Fat people never seem to eat fast food in commercials.

All companies show fun and winning at life via their products. It's how advertising works. And all affiliates show the fun times and glance over/ignore the negatives. How many affiliates shilling for poker make videos warning us about gambling online and tell us about young kids who destroyed their career prospects because they bought into the poker dream 5-10 years ago? Not many.

To tell you the truth, I do get annoyed by the beer commercials, by the Nike commercials, by the L'Oreal and fast food commercials. I just don't see most of these slot affiliates are doing anything different.

Now... if they start selling "systems on how to win" and such, then it crosses the line to fraud territory. But most of them are selling fun times and as weird as it is to believe, a lot of people do seem to like to play slots and most people like to recall fondly their wins (and ignore all the times they've lost.) Some of them might be delusional/fraudsters like the guy selling the BJ winning "system". Most are just affiliate shills - not that much different from the Iphone/Samsung shills who tell us all the great things about the product but bury/ignore drawbacks, costs, alternatives, etc.

Slotlady needs to just come clean for being an affiliate marketer for the El Cortez and label it in her youtube videos. She's getting something extra besides filming permission from El Cortez.

Since this is a poker site, it is interesting to point out that none of the poker youtubers were disclosing what they are getting for hosting meetup games at various casinos. Most/none of them were disclosing what they are getting for pushing people to use poker apps, either.

This is not to say that it's right. It is only to point out that many similar affiliates do not make good disclosures and common sense tells most customers that they are getting something. More disclosures would be nice, but as it is, poor disclosure is not a big slot community conspiracy - it is part of normal course of business in most industries.

You seriously are bringing up good points. I'm not saying that slotlady has to disclose the terms, but a simple disclaimer that she's an affiliate on her videos would make her above board, IMHO. It's a minor thing to be mad about, but the precedence that having youtube slot influencers break FTC laws with impunity probably means stricter youtube enforcement in the coming years as a "corrective measure". As youtube drama tends to have a very reactive effect on video policy on the website. I don't want gambling youtubers to be banned or restricted, because slot lady couldn't put #AD in her video title while playing at the El Cortez, or Brian Christopher didn't check a box that the video is Paid Promotion.

They can still do their thing, but being a tiny bit more forthright means avoiding the "corrective measure" effect that youtube does. It also secures their financial bag as both are living comfy off of slots.

Now JFK slots is a pure scammer. Selling a $250s slot system and videotaping other people's handpay as "proof" is typical scammer behavior.

[NewGuy]

Saw a new Brian Christopher video that perplexes me. Please put your input in if you've played slots at MGM properties, preferably ARIA, but his latest video has a brand new(like on the casino floor) variant of wheel of fortune multi-denom(1,2,5,10 cent) game in a livestream. He's allegedly the first person to play this IGT slot on a casino floor, and has an IGT sponsored giveaway in the description box. Take that into consideration.

I was watching him play for 40 minutes and noticed that his slot points didn't change much. IIRC, besides a few exceptions, most slot machines at Aria give you 1 base point for $3 of coin-in play, and this machine according to Brian Christopher allegedly gives you a 5x base point bonus. This doesn't take account into the mlife tier benefits that give an extra 10%/20%/30%/40%, but a guy like him probably at least would get some benefit for pouring a lot of money into these things and probably has to be above entry level. Let's be generous and assume he got no bonus benefit at all and he's starting at entry level

Anyway, here's a screencap of the base points at 3 minutes:



Here's a screencap of the base points at ~43 minutes:



Let's assume he got 129 session points or $387 coin-in. His bets during the video made me think there's something going on, because he was betting anywhere from 2-15$ a spin. So I got a notepad and literally wrote down the spins up to that 43 minute:

7 spins at $6 at 32744 points
8 free spins at $6
13 spins at $6
10 spins at $3
44 spins at $4.50
34 spins at $6.00
8 free spins at $6
14 spins at $9
15 spins at $9
6 spins at $15
19 spins at $6
8 free spins at $6
20 spins at $6
17 spins at $9 end at 32873 points

Excluding free spins, he had around (20+19+34+13+7) ninety-three $6 dollar spins ALONE. That's around $558 dollar coin-in or a bare minimum of 186 session points before any mlife or machine specific bonus.

Adding it all together:
10 spins *$3 = $30 - 10 base points
44 spins * $4.50 = $198 - 66 base points
93 spins * $6 = $558 coin-in - 186 base points
46 spins * $9 = $414 coin-in - 138 base points
6 spins * $15 = $90 coin-in - 30 base points

Total is $1290 coin-in . Instead of getting $3 coin-in for one point at base level with no machine bonus - this alleged slot machine gives you the same amount of coin-in as a video poker machine at $10 for one point .

I wouldn't of posted so soon after my last post, but as he's bouncing around machines in the same video, he hits an older thanksgiving buffalo machine at around the 57 minute mark, we get to see the points accumulate.



This video has him betting $2.50 and getting almost a new base point per pull which is close to the $3 coin-in to 1 point ratio stated on MGM's website. This is way faster than the wheel of fortune game, which makes no sense as this wheel of fortune variant doesn't even have the 5x bonus. I really don't want to assume anything, and would love to be corrected from the smart people at PFA, but that has to either be technical error or something shady on this Wheel of Fortune variant. My brain can't wrap around a penny slot that has the same amount of coin-in to point ratio as a videopoker machine.

An actual super-chat somebody posted in that livestream which validates my posting of this thread in my opinion:



Not even the biggest superchat donation as some Rudie whale named bob donated $200 and does these high donations frequently.

[Elmo]

Has anyone ever watched these fake friendly cats on YouTube? From my perspective, they are using government disability funds to play slot machines. “Heidi the Face” looks like she has Down Syndrome and loves to spit on people when drunk. “Fred the Muscle” pretends he can’t walk due to back issues and rides a scooter for sympathy. They are Brian Christopher’s friends too. Smh.

[Drawingdead]

They make entertaining videos but I 100% see your points about these people being scumbags. My buddy PJ truly believes these guys are rich from slots. I had to break down how a slot actually works and these guys are spending tens of thousands to hit a jackpot. They make all their money from sponsors and YouTube views.also rack back, kick backs, slot points. Another YouTube, Kenny Ko another YouTube broke down his monthly income when he was getting a million plus views a video. He said he was making more then 40k a month. If you spend 20k on slots and making videos, 20k a month is a good income.

[mickeycrimm]

They make entertaining videos but I 100% see your points about these people being scumbags. My buddy PJ truly believes these guys are rich from slots. I had to break down how a slot actually works and these guys are spending tens of thousands to hit a jackpot. They make all their money from sponsors and YouTube views.also rack back, kick backs, slot points. Another YouTube, Kenny Ko another YouTube broke down his monthly income when he was getting a million plus views a video. He said he was making more then 40k a month. If you spend 20k on slots and making videos, 20k a month is a good income.

You wouldn't believe who all is cashing in on youtube videos. Theres even freight tramps making money on youtube videos. One of them maintains an apartment in Johnson City, Tennessee but travels all over the US making videos about hopping freights. He gets up to 400K views per video. He has 44K youtube subscribers. In one video he says 30K views is worth about $100 to him. Hobo Shoestring. He's no phony. Been riding the rails for over 30 years.

[Drawingdead]

They make entertaining videos but I 100% see your points about these people being scumbags. My buddy PJ truly believes these guys are rich from slots. I had to break down how a slot actually works and these guys are spending tens of thousands to hit a jackpot. They make all their money from sponsors and YouTube views.also rack back, kick backs, slot points. Another YouTube, Kenny Ko another YouTube broke down his monthly income when he was getting a million plus views a video. He said he was making more then 40k a month. If you spend 20k on slots and making videos, 20k a month is a good income.

You wouldn't believe who all is cashing in on youtube videos. Theres even freight tramps making money on youtube videos. One of them maintains an apartment in Johnson City, Tennessee but travels all over the US making videos about hopping freights. He gets up to 400K views per video. He has 44K youtube subscribers. In one video he says 30K views is worth about $100 to him. Hobo Shoestring. He's no phony. Been riding the rails for over 30 years.

It depends on the kind of videos and ad revenue for the sponsored links. Some YouTube’s make over 7$ For 1k views. Now make up to 1 or 2 videos a day with 1 million views. It adds up quicks.

[Rick Sanchez]

It's a minor thing to be mad about, but the precedence that having youtube slot influencers break FTC laws with impunity probably means stricter youtube enforcement in the coming years as a "corrective measure". As youtube drama tends to have a very reactive effect on video policy on the website.

This is absolutely true. When YouTube's hand gets forced, they tend to come down very hard and overcorrect.