Time to get on the TRUMP train

[hongkonger]

Im just curious if some of you guys would still be as up in arms as you are about the travel ban from certain countries if it was the Obama administration who enforced it rather than the Trump admin.

Because it was the Obama administration who created and signed off on the list of countries blocked...not Trump.

Trump simply activated it.

I would be. I didn't like several things Obama did.

[hongkonger]

And LOL at this guy. Ill believe it when i see it, because i highly doubt they are going to just open their doors, much less to any Tom, Dick, or Harry in the world. The last time I checked, Canada had tighter restrictions to get into their country than the US. You can barely, if at all even get into Canada even if you have a DUI on record.

This is true but that's personal behavior, not discrimination based on religion or national origin. Big difference.

[Baron Von Strucker]

And LOL at this guy. Ill believe it when i see it, because i highly doubt they are going to just open their doors, much less to any Tom, Dick, or Harry in the world. The last time I checked, Canada had tighter restrictions to get into their country than the US. You can barely, if at all even get into Canada even if you have a DUI on record.

notice how you elected a old gezer as your president.... regardless of whom was elected they were both old, really fucking OLD

Canada has on the contrary elected a young energetic man to do our bidding. of course he does not have the experience of a more mature politician but at the same time this could help us in the long run.
BTW any Canadian with a criminal history including DUI is NOT eligible to legally enter the USA.

I would hope Canada would open the borders for immigration especially doctors, skilled educated people. personally i have had no trouble helping skilled people successfully immigrate to Canada and sponsored a Slovak girl who became our children,s nanny who lived with us for four years and after she was able to become a landed immigrant with little education. was not a easy well paying job but in her words %100 worth it. 14 yrs later she is married with her own children working for canada post.... if any body is interested provincial governments has a quota for hiring immigrants as they are subsidized by the federal government.

[sonatine]

OSA: you just mad he is living up to his words and obama did not


and you're just mad because

[OSA]

I can see my dick shirtless when I look down and that's all that matters papichulo

[Mintjewlips]

It's the darndest thing, i see chaos on my tv but when i look outside everything is ok.

[LarryLaffer]

It's the darndest thing, i see chaos on my tv but when i look outside everything is ok.

dont bring bill hicks into this

[limitles]

It's the darndest thing, i see chaos on my tv but when i look outside everything is ok.

Gee, really? What's your vantage point?

[sonatine]

Mintjewlips: He looks happy, not like gay, but happy


Hint: men in uniforms are touching him.

[ThreeBet]

Donald J. Trump

Statement Regarding Recent Executive Order Concerning Extreme Vetting
“...... My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months. The seven countries named in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by the Obama administration as sources of terror."


Hmmm.... Thats funny, seems the MSM failed to mention that when they first reported this. Now I see they've added a brief mention to it in today's stories, but not until after the libtard mob is already up in arms.

I love how MSM has to editorialize every story line by line so you mindless mongs know what to think


BTW- I still think its wrong, regardless

[Mintjewlips]

It's the darndest thing, i see chaos on my tv but when i look outside everything is ok.

Gee, really? What's your vantage point?

Your moms vagina how bouh dah?

Seriously folks, nothing to see here, just a bunch of irrelevant news organizations hell bent on seeing Trump impeached, which is not going to happen, quote me on that. He might get killed but never impeached.

[blake]

Donald J. Trump

Statement Regarding Recent Executive Order Concerning Extreme Vetting
“...... My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months. The seven countries named in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by the Obama administration as sources of terror."


Hmmm.... Thats funny, seems the MSM failed to mention that when they first reported this. Now I see they've added a brief mention to it in today's stories, but not until after the libtard mob is already up in arms.

I love how MSM has to editorialize every story line by line so you mindless mongs know what to think


BTW- I still think its wrong, regardless

not really comparable

obama banning refugees from one country is quite different from trump banning all people from seven countries that just so happen to be 99.9% muslim. nobody thought obama hated muslims. the michael angelos of the world thought he secretly was one. a littttttle different with trump, considering that half the country already thinks he’s the second coming of hitler.

if trump wants to avoid being the least popular president in history and having his “movement” be anything more than a tiny blip on the radar, he needs to show a desire to reach out to people that don’t think like him. (i don’t think obama was good at that either by the way.) this level of civil unrest so early into a president’s term is unprecedented (at least in most of our lifetimes), and if trump doesn’t change, i think it will stay this way for the next 4 years.

[Mintjewlips]

Donald J. Trump

Statement Regarding Recent Executive Order Concerning Extreme Vetting
“...... My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months. The seven countries named in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by the Obama administration as sources of terror."


Hmmm.... Thats funny, seems the MSM failed to mention that when they first reported this. Now I see they've added a brief mention to it in today's stories, but not until after the libtard mob is already up in arms.

I love how MSM has to editorialize every story line by line so you mindless mongs know what to think


BTW- I still think its wrong, regardless

not really comparable

obama banning refugees from one country is quite different from trump banning all people from seven countries that just so happen to be 99.9% muslim. nobody thought obama hated muslims. the michael angelos of the world thought he secretly was one. a littttttle different with trump, considering that half the country already thinks he’s the second coming of hitler.

if trump wants to avoid being the least popular president in history and having his “movement” be anything more than a tiny blip on the radar, he needs to show a desire to reach out to people that don’t think like him. (i don’t think obama was good at that either by the way.) this level of civil unrest so early into a president’s term is unprecedented (at least in most of our lifetimes), and if trump doesn’t change, i think it will stay this way for the next 4 years.

AHEMMM....

[Dan Druff]

My problem is Saudi Arabia being missing from that list, and the piss-poor explanation for why that is.

I don't have a problem with ending the acceptance of refugees from these countries. While we have not yet had any terror attacks from phony refugees, Europe has. That will be in our future, as well, unless we put a stop to this.

I do think they went too far with this ban, going as far to stop those who had already obtained visas. It should have been a "going forward" sort of thing, with extra scrutiny placed upon those who were already on their way or had obtained visas.

These countries being "99.9% Muslim" is inconsequential. They have long (and accurately) been identified as sources of terror. There are plenty of other Muslim countries which are NOT on the ban list.

[OSA]

My problem is Saudi Arabia being missing from that list, and the piss-poor explanation for why that is.

I don't have a problem with ending the acceptance of refugees from these countries. While we have not yet had any terror attacks from phony refugees, Europe has. That will be in our future, as well, unless we put a stop to this.

I do think they also went too far with this ban, going as far to stop those who had already obtained visas. It should have been a "going forward" sort of thing, with extra scrutiny placed upon those who were already on their way or had obtained visas.

These countries being "99.9% Muslim" is inconsequential. They have long (and accurately) been identified as sources of terror. There are plenty of other Muslim countries which are NOT on the ban list.

My guess is that there is a strategy for them as well which will be revealed in due time. I am okay with that.

[Hockey Guy]

Is this Conway chick for real?

Saying reporters should be fired? WTF?

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politi...id=mailsignout

Scary shit.

[vegas1369]

My problem is Saudi Arabia being missing from that list, and the piss-poor explanation for why that is.

I don't have a problem with ending the acceptance of refugees from these countries. While we have not yet had any terror attacks from phony refugees, Europe has. That will be in our future, as well, unless we put a stop to this.

I do think they also went too far with this ban, going as far to stop those who had already obtained visas. It should have been a "going forward" sort of thing, with extra scrutiny placed upon those who were already on their way or had obtained visas.

These countries being "99.9% Muslim" is inconsequential. They have long (and accurately) been identified as sources of terror. There are plenty of other Muslim countries which are NOT on the ban list.

My guess is that there is a strategy for them as well which will be revealed in due time. I am okay with that.

Yes, the strategy is don't bite the oily hand that feeds you, egg head.

[BCR]

How do you pause and seek to improve a vetting process that has a 100% success rate at preventing refugees from those countries over 15 years? That's the idiotic part. How do you improve on 100% success?

Like, DHS is the GOAT gov't agency as far as effectiveness at vetting.

I get it's just red meat for his retard base, but what happens if you roll them back, declare you made some great changes(which is a certainty. Everything Trump is the greatest), and then even one body drops afterwards? You just claimed to change a system with a 15 year track record of 100% and turned it into a fail.

It's one of a few things he did this week that provide a short term bump to your base with a huge downside that can occur at any time over the life of your term.

Even in Europe, most of the attacks have been done by legal residents. They're better terrorists, as they understand western culture and how to blend in better. We're not going to ban people from France and Belgium.

A move with almost no upside.

[blake]

My problem is Saudi Arabia being missing from that list, and the piss-poor explanation for why that is.

I don't have a problem with ending the acceptance of refugees from these countries. While we have not yet had any terror attacks from phony refugees, Europe has. That will be in our future, as well, unless we put a stop to this.

I do think they went too far with this ban, going as far to stop those who had already obtained visas. It should have been a "going forward" sort of thing, with extra scrutiny placed upon those who were already on their way or had obtained visas.

These countries being "99.9% Muslim" is inconsequential. They have long (and accurately) been identified as sources of terror. There are plenty of other Muslim countries which are NOT on the ban list.

nobody wants terrorists here. if trump wants to do "extreme vetting" and add an extra year to to the process and go nuts with extra background investigations, he should go ahead and do it. no one would have objected.

but stopping all citizens from these countries from traveling here is just ridiculous. it goes against everything we're about and history will judge us all real poorly

[OSA]

I don't think it was posted but here is the full text in case anyone cares to ACTUALLY READ THE FUCKING LAW. NO ONE should be making judgments one way or another unless you take 30 minutes to read this at least once.


Here's the complete text of the executive order:



By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and laws of the United States of America, including the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), 8 U.S.C. 1101 et seq., and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, and to protect the American people from terrorist attacks by foreign nationals admitted to the United States, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Purpose. The visa-issuance process plays a crucial role in detecting individuals with terrorist ties and stopping them from entering the United States. Perhaps in no instance was that more apparent than the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, when State Department policy prevented consular officers from properly scrutinizing the visa applications of several of the 19 foreign nationals who went on to murder nearly 3,000 Americans. And while the visa-issuance process was reviewed and amended after the September 11 attacks to better detect would-be terrorists from receiving visas, these measures did not stop attacks by foreign nationals who were admitted to the United States.

Numerous foreign-born individuals have been convicted or implicated in terrorism-related crimes since September 11, 2001, including foreign nationals who entered the United States after receiving visitor, student, or employment visas, or who entered through the United States refugee resettlement program. Deteriorating conditions in certain countries due to war, strife, disaster, and civil unrest increase the likelihood that terrorists will use any means possible to enter the United States. The United States must be vigilant during the visa-issuance process to ensure that those approved for admission do not intend to harm Americans and that they have no ties to terrorism.

In order to protect Americans, the United States must ensure that those admitted to this country do not bear hostile attitudes toward it and its founding principles. The United States cannot, and should not, admit those who do not support the Constitution, or those who would place violent ideologies over American law. In addition, the United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including “honor” killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation.


Sec. 2. Policy. It is the policy of the United States to protect its citizens from foreign nationals who intend to commit terrorist attacks in the United States; and to prevent the admission of foreign nationals who intend to exploit United States immigration laws for malevolent purposes.

Sec. 3. Suspension of Issuance of Visas and Other Immigration Benefits to Nationals of Countries of Particular Concern. (a) The Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence, shall immediately conduct a review to determine the information needed from any country to adjudicate any visa, admission, or other benefit under the INA (adjudications) in order to determine that the individual seeking the benefit is who the individual claims to be and is not a security or public-safety threat.

(b) The Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence, shall submit to the President a report on the results of the review described in subsection (a) of this section, including the Secretary of Homeland Security’s determination of the information needed for adjudications and a list of countries that do not provide adequate information, within 30 days of the date of this order. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall provide a copy of the report to the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence.

(c) To temporarily reduce investigative burdens on relevant agencies during the review period described in subsection (a) of this section, to ensure the proper review and maximum utilization of available resources for the screening of foreign nationals, and to ensure that adequate standards are established to prevent infiltration by foreign terrorists or criminals, pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order (excluding those foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, North Atlantic Treaty Organization visas, C-2 visas for travel to the United Nations, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas).

(d) Immediately upon receipt of the report described in subsection (b) of this section regarding the information needed for adjudications, the Secretary of State shall request all foreign governments that do not supply such information to start providing such information regarding their nationals within 60 days of notification.

(e) After the 60-day period described in subsection (d) of this section expires, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall submit to the President a list of countries recommended for inclusion on a Presidential proclamation that would prohibit the entry of foreign nationals (excluding those foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, North Atlantic Treaty Organization visas, C-2 visas for travel to the United Nations, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas) from countries that do not provide the information requested pursuant to subsection (d) of this section until compliance occurs.

(f) At any point after submitting the list described in subsection (e) of this section, the Secretary of State or the Secretary of Homeland Security may submit to the President the names of any additional countries recommended for similar treatment.

(g) Notwithstanding a suspension pursuant to subsection (c) of this section or pursuant to a Presidential proclamation described in subsection (e) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may, on a case-by-case basis, and when in the national interest, issue visas or other immigration benefits to nationals of countries for which visas and benefits are otherwise blocked.

(h) The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall submit to the President a joint report on the progress in implementing this order within 30 days of the date of this order, a second report within 60 days of the date of this order, a third report within 90 days of the date of this order, and a fourth report within 120 days of the date of this order.

Sec. 4. Implementing Uniform Screening Standards for All Immigration Programs. (a) The Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, the Director of National Intelligence, and the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation shall implement a program, as part of the adjudication process for immigration benefits, to identify individuals seeking to enter the United States on a fraudulent basis with the intent to cause harm, or who are at risk of causing harm subsequent to their admission. This program will include the development of a uniform screening standard and procedure, such as in-person interviews; a database of identity documents proffered by applicants to ensure that duplicate documents are not used by multiple applicants; amended application forms that include questions aimed at identifying fraudulent answers and malicious intent; a mechanism to ensure that the applicant is who the applicant claims to be; a process to evaluate the applicant’s likelihood of becoming a positively contributing member of society and the applicant’s ability to make contributions to the national interest; and a mechanism to assess whether or not the applicant has the intent to commit criminal or terrorist acts after entering the United States.

(b) The Secretary of Homeland Security, in conjunction with the Secretary of State, the Director of National Intelligence, and the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, shall submit to the President an initial report on the progress of this directive within 60 days of the date of this order, a second report within 100 days of the date of this order, and a third report within 200 days of the date of this order.

Sec. 5. Realignment of the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program for Fiscal Year 2017. (a) The Secretary of State shall suspend the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program (USRAP) for 120 days. During the 120-day period, the Secretary of State, in conjunction with the Secretary of Homeland Security and in consultation with the Director of National Intelligence, shall review the USRAP application and adjudication process to determine what additional procedures should be taken to ensure that those approved for refugee admission do not pose a threat to the security and welfare of the United States, and shall implement such additional procedures. Refugee applicants who are already in the USRAP process may be admitted upon the initiation and completion of these revised procedures. Upon the date that is 120 days after the date of this order, the Secretary of State shall resume USRAP admissions only for nationals of countries for which the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the Director of National Intelligence have jointly determined that such additional procedures are adequate to ensure the security and welfare of the United States.

(b) Upon the resumption of USRAP admissions, the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, is further directed to make changes, to the extent permitted by law, to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual’s country of nationality. Where necessary and appropriate, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall recommend legislation to the President that would assist with such prioritization.

(c) Pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), I hereby proclaim that the entry of nationals of Syria as refugees is detrimental to the interests of the United States and thus suspend any such entry until such time as I have determined that sufficient changes have been made to the USRAP to ensure that admission of Syrian refugees is consistent with the national interest.

(d) Pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), I hereby proclaim that the entry of more than 50,000 refugees in fiscal year 2017 would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and thus suspend any such entry until such time as I determine that additional admissions would be in the national interest.

(e) Notwithstanding the temporary suspension imposed pursuant to subsection (a) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest — including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution, when admitting the person would enable the United States to conform its conduct to a preexisting international agreement, or when the person is already in transit and denying admission would cause undue hardship — and it would not pose a risk to the security or welfare of the United States.

(f) The Secretary of State shall submit to the President an initial report on the progress of the directive in subsection (b) of this section regarding prioritization of claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution within 100 days of the date of this order and shall submit a second report within 200 days of the date of this order.

(g) It is the policy of the executive branch that, to the extent permitted by law and as practicable, State and local jurisdictions be granted a role in the process of determining the placement or settlement in their jurisdictions of aliens eligible to be admitted to the United States as refugees. To that end, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall examine existing law to determine the extent to which, consistent with applicable law, State and local jurisdictions may have greater involvement in the process of determining the placement or resettlement of refugees in their jurisdictions, and shall devise a proposal to lawfully promote such involvement.

Sec. 6. Rescission of Exercise of Authority Relating to the Terrorism Grounds of Inadmissibility. The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall, in consultation with the Attorney General, consider rescinding the exercises of authority in section 212 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182, relating to the terrorism grounds of inadmissibility, as well as any related implementing memoranda.

Sec. 7. Expedited Completion of the Biometric Entry-Exit Tracking System. (a) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall expedite the completion and implementation of a biometric entry-exit tracking system for all travelers to the United States, as recommended by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States.

(b) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall submit to the President periodic reports on the progress of the directive contained in subsection (a) of this section. The initial report shall be submitted within 100 days of the date of this order, a second report shall be submitted within 200 days of the date of this order, and a third report shall be submitted within 365 days of the date of this order. Further, the Secretary shall submit a report every 180 days thereafter until the system is fully deployed and operational.

Sec. 8. Visa Interview Security. (a) The Secretary of State shall immediately suspend the Visa Interview Waiver Program and ensure compliance with section 222 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1222, which requires that all individuals seeking a nonimmigrant visa undergo an in-person interview, subject to specific statutory exceptions.

(b) To the extent permitted by law and subject to the availability of appropriations, the Secretary of State shall immediately expand the Consular Fellows Program, including by substantially increasing the number of Fellows, lengthening or making permanent the period of service, and making language training at the Foreign Service Institute available to Fellows for assignment to posts outside of their area of core linguistic ability, to ensure that non-immigrant visa-interview wait times are not unduly affected.

Sec. 9. Visa Validity Reciprocity. The Secretary of State shall review all nonimmigrant visa reciprocity agreements to ensure that they are, with respect to each visa classification, truly reciprocal insofar as practicable with respect to validity period and fees, as required by sections 221(c) and 281 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1201(c) and 1351, and other treatment. If a country does not treat United States nationals seeking nonimmigrant visas in a reciprocal manner, the Secretary of State shall adjust the visa validity period, fee schedule, or other treatment to match the treatment of United States nationals by the foreign country, to the extent practicable.

Sec. 10. Transparency and Data Collection. (a) To be more transparent with the American people, and to more effectively implement policies and practices that serve the national interest, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Attorney General, shall, consistent with applicable law and national security, collect and make publicly available within 180 days, and every 180 days thereafter:

(i) information regarding the number of foreign nationals in the United States who have been charged with terrorism-related offenses while in the United States; convicted of terrorism-related offenses while in the United States; or removed from the United States based on terrorism-related activity, affiliation, or material support to a terrorism-related organization, or any other national security reasons since the date of this order or the last reporting period, whichever is later;

(ii) information regarding the number of foreign nationals in the United States who have been radicalized after entry into the United States and engaged in terrorism-related acts, or who have provided material support to terrorism-related organizations in countries that pose a threat to the United States, since the date of this order or the last reporting period, whichever is later; and

(iii) information regarding the number and types of acts of gender-based violence against women, including honor killings, in the United States by foreign nationals, since the date of this order or the last reporting period, whichever is later; and

(iv) any other information relevant to public safety and security as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Attorney General, including information on the immigration status of foreign nationals charged with major offenses.

(b) The Secretary of State shall, within one year of the date of this order, provide a report on the estimated long-term costs of the USRAP at the Federal, State, and local levels.

Sec. 11. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.